tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-90968040905223134332024-03-13T00:35:33.407-07:00Los Angeles - My CityA city of Contrast. A center of entertainment. A center of music. A center of cool trendy things and wealth? The city with the highest homeless population in the United States of America.myles111ushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05727652448443356303noreply@blogger.comBlogger295125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9096804090522313433.post-50978917945710193012020-01-25T16:33:00.000-08:002020-01-25T16:57:01.703-08:00AT&T - Higher prices / no increase in speed or service content<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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January 25, 2020<br />
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I have been a customer of ATT and Uverse for over a decade. I generally write long posts but will try to keep this short for a change.<br />
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A few days ago I talked to Customer Loyalty / Customer Retention. I had promotion that was expiring on my Uverse services. I have the top package, more expensive than other folks or on demand subscriptions of today. ATT is behind the times but that is another subject.<br />
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When I talked to the folks in Loyalty, I was informed that the Uverse would be more expensive AND my Internet would increase by $5.00 a month. My Internet promotion was quoted / promised, at a specific speed for life. What good is a promotion for the same amount year after year if they just change the rate? The Internet is not any faster than it was. I can get three times the speed elsewhere for less. I have been procrastinating switching service as I was just lazy and thought the ATT folks were working with me to some degree. Wrong.<br />
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Bottom line. Higher costs in life are understandable but you generally get something for the higher cost charges. My content on Uverse TV has not changed. My Internet speed has not increased. My costs have just increased, year after year.<br />
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I am currently on Twitter with ATTHelp. They asked for my account number to look into this but I have no confidence in anything being accomplished. If you doubt my lack of confidence take a look at some of my ATT posts and documents that go back a decade at <a href="https://la-economy.blogspot.com/2012/07/at-so-wrong-in-every-way-part-ii.html">https://la-economy.blogspot.com/2012/07/at-so-wrong-in-every-way-part-ii.html</a><br />
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I'll update this if there is a reason.<br />
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<br />myles111ushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05727652448443356303noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9096804090522313433.post-10236921030322704962019-09-20T16:27:00.001-07:002019-09-20T16:36:05.563-07:00SuddenLink - setting the customer service bar at a new low<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<b>20 September 2019</b><br />
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Months of problems. Months of broken promises when they say they will have somebody contact you within 48 hours it does not happen.<br />
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Somebody that reads my pieces on AT&T says that Suddenlink sets the service bar at a new low.<br />
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If you look on twitter and search for "suddenlink problems" you might be floored that somebody this bad at customer service can stay in business.<br />
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Check it our here if you want to see more complaints. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=suddenlink%20problems&src=typed_query" target="_blank">More complaints here</a> ......<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=suddenlink%20complaints&src=typed_query" target="_blank">or here....</a><br />
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myles111ushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05727652448443356303noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9096804090522313433.post-90662692482205879632019-01-01T09:00:00.001-08:002019-01-01T09:00:24.967-08:002018 - Most memorable year of my life<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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I did not do very much last night, as 2018 came to a close.<br />
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I have walked this planet for a long time. Looking back on my entire life .....<br />
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On my first birthday, June 25, 1950, the Korean War started.<br />
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I watched my neighbors build fallout shelters as we faced the brink of nuclear war with Russia over missiles parked in Cuba.<br />
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I was taught history about how the Nazis locked up people because they were different, put them in cages, treated them like animals.<br />
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I observed our government lie to the people about a place called Vietnam.<br />
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I was here for the gas crisis of the seventies.<br />
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I was here to watch as our banking system and economy crashed.<br />
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I observed as our government lied about something they referred to as weapons of mass destruction.<br />
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<b>2018 ......</b><br />
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Loss of respect and trust by our allies.<br />
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Loss of respect by the world.<br />
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Locking up children in cages.<br />
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Brink of war with North Korea.<br />
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Destruction of the environment by overturning laws.<br />
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Spending money on 4th Century technology to address a 21st Century issue.<br />
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Empowering the worst element of our country to come to action against anybody different.<br />
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Watching the head of our nation deny climate change and science.<br />
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Watching the news media banned from The White House.<br />
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I saw new records being set for the lowest points in our economy, surpassing even those of the Stock Market Crash of the past.<br />
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I have lost track of the number of now uncountable multi daily barrage of news stories about the President's lawsuits, failed business practices, immoral aspects continually surrounding his life, past and present.<br />
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I have lost track of the number of now uncountable multi daily barrage of news stories about the President's staff and closest allies, their lawsuits, failed business practices, immoral aspects continually surrounding their lives, past and present.<br />
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I have lost track of the number of charges, allegations, or convictions brought against "The President and his men".<br />
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The list goes on and on. 2018 just may go down as the most memorable year in my own life, and may go down as the most tragic year in the history of the United States of America.<br />
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<br />myles111ushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05727652448443356303noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9096804090522313433.post-37261639649889588282018-03-18T16:39:00.000-07:002018-03-18T16:39:02.024-07:00Levi's - Another Institution Bites The Dust<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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I just left a review on Amazon regarding the Levi 501's that arrived yesterday. What was an American institution for decades, after three plus orders over a few years, has proven to me that there is no turning back the clock. <br />
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My review:<br />
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This is basically about overall quality. Over the years I have watched the quality decline in every aspect.<br />
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Inconsistent workmanship. One used to be able to count on one pair of jeans being the same as previous pairs. Not the case anymore. In my last three orders of multiple pairs of 501s, items in the same order were inconsistent. <br />
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The fabric gets thinner every year.<br />
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Right rear pocket attachment point develops a hole over a short period of time. I do not carry anything in that pocket.<br />
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A pair of Levi's would last years. Six months is considered amazing with today's product.<br />
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These are made in more countries that I can begin to count with some of the worst quality control and workmanship that I could document using ISO9000 standards.<br />
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Bottom line. Overpriced junk. This is the last time I will deal with this company who was based on quality in the past but has lost their commitment to the primary factor that made them great. Time to try Wrangler once again next go around. Ordered them in the past and went back to Levi's after the thinner material seemed cheap. This latest Levi order makes Wrangler look more attractive with the latest, additional decline, in Levi quality.<br />
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<br />myles111ushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05727652448443356303noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9096804090522313433.post-81798732826631507852017-07-09T15:52:00.002-07:002017-07-09T15:52:50.383-07:00Leaf Springs, Coil Springs. Fine firearms.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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A bit of explanation on leaf springs compared to coil springs utilized in fine firearms.<br />
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Is there an advantage or disadvantage to one type over the other? Not really, as long as good materials are used, proper workmanship is employed, proper maintenance is implemented. But, you should understand some basic fundamentals as there are differences and there is some misinformation out there. <br />
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First, a bit of history. Leaf spring use in firearms goes back centuries. In the past, the technology was available to produce leaf springs. This was not the case with coil springs. Some people like their fine firearm that may have a historical tie to fine pieces of the past. <br />
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Leaf springs were used, and are still used, in some of the finest firearms such as Holland & Holland, Westley Richards, and James Purdey and Sons to single out a few. The trigger groups above are from another fine firearms maker, Perazzi.<br />
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Lets take a moment to look at a few points worth thought. <br />
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Some people state that a leaf spring will maintain the same tension until it breaks, this being it's advantage over coil springs. Simply stated, this is not true. We can dive into metallurgy to show this is not true but we can also set up a simple example which you can do at home to disprove this yourself. Take a simple steel paperclip and bend it partially, back and forth, as you sit in front of television. You may find it breaks before the show is over. <br />
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Coil springs are utilized in many modern firearm designs. They are also used in automotive engines and internal combustion engines in general.<br />
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Imagine a cheap car, using the cheapest steels, and imagine driving down the road as your tachometer reads 1,500 RPM. In a four cycle engine, the intake valve(s) are being opened and closed 750 times per minute, in a four cycle gasoline engine. That is 45,000 times per hour. The cheapest Yugo using the cheapest steels available will generally run for more than an hour. Let's imagine that we drive that car for one hour a day for a year. That would be over 16 million cycles of the coil spring. How many cars have you seen on the side of the road non-operational due to a broken valve spring? Fine flintlock and percussion lock guns were not generally fired 45,000 times in their lifetime (remember the Yogo above that drove for one hour). I believe, but may be incorrect, that Perazzi expects the life of their leaf springs to be about 40,000 rounds. <br />
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Drop lock and side lock guns that utilize leaf springs which are expected to break. This is the primary reason which why the locks in many cases are hand detachable. The springs can be quickly and easily replaced. <br />
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Leaf springs work great. They feel great as do many coil spring powered hammer actions. In both cases metal fatigues over time and use but leaf springs concentrate the force into one small stress spot while coil springs do not have a focused stress spot. This is not good or bad, this is just simple design and metallurgy science. The belief that leaf springs maintain the same force and lock time over their entire lifespan until they fail is false as well. You prove this yourself with the paperclip, or you can ask a metallurgist or physicist. <br />
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As a side note, some fine gun makers such as Perazzi give you a choice as they offer both leaf and coil spring models. If you love history and removable locks float your proverbial boat you can go one route. If you want a more modern and technological approach you have that option as well. <br />
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Happy shooting. <br />
<br />myles111ushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05727652448443356303noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9096804090522313433.post-17359510854129886442017-02-07T09:47:00.001-08:002017-03-06T09:12:00.244-08:00Fidelity Investments vs TD Ameritrade<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Why have I stayed with Fidelity Investments rather than switch to TD Ameritrade even though TD is more flexible on negotiating lower trading commissions? <br />
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Fidelity had terrific tax reporting to the customer and great customer service.<br />
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TD had been a temptation. Their technical support was better. They always gave an answer rather than refer you up their organizational chain where at times you never received a proper answer. Fidelity support was generally quite friendly but over time had fewer immediate answers. Certain types of trading, such as option trading are available from TD and not offered by Fidelity.<br />
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Let's examine my point about customer service, which is actually directed at the tax reporting advantage.<br />
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Yesterday, February 6, 2017, I was told my 1099 would not be available until March 4. The reason I was given is that certain securities that I held were holding up their data to Fidelity as some things might be reclassified over the next weeks and Fidelity would not receive the data until this was done. This turned out to be a flat out lie as I investigated further. <br />
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My complaint was handled via social media online via twitter direct messages, phone calls to their support (where the initial complaint was reported and the initial lie was told), and to my own personal representative in my local Fidelity office. My local representative was no help. He said he could do nothing other than refer the issue to his boss, the office manager. The office manager and I then conversed. She said she could do nothing other than refer the issue to her manager who would not get back to her until tomorrow at best, after repeating the same lie. I informed her that I had investigated and found other Fidelity clients with the same security holdings that I had, and even more extensive trading portfolios, had received their 1099s already. Friends at TD Ameritrade had also received their 1099s on time. This was later confirmed by a Fidelity employee, in writing.<br />
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Fidelity said they are filing an extension with the IRS. Heads up Fidelity, I am your customer, not the IRS. My tax accountant firm is very busy and I made my appointment last year as I always do. I figured that since you are obligated to have tax forms in the hands of your clients by the end of January 2017 for the 2016 tax year, it is safe to schedule my appointment for mid February. I do not want an extension. I want my 1099.<br />
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The Fidelity end of year advantage was over. I should have seen this coming as each year my tax forms arrived later each year. The service advantage was over too. Last year my representative was promoted within the Fidelity organization. It was warranted. He was a great rep for many years. He always got my issues addressed without me having to repeat the incident time and time again as things are referred to others. He was gone and a new rep was assigned to me who sent this issue to his manager, and so on.<br />
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TD Ameritrade .... now with better tax reporting, more competent customer service, lower commissions, more investment trading options, and better trading software. If even one of those points hit home with you it seems you now have the same issue facing you that I have .... when do I switch to TD Amertrade?<br />
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Update Feb 7, 2017 2:30pm pst<br />
I just learned that Fidelity is not under the same laws as employers. They are allowed to extend delivery of 1099s until Mid February via an extension. They can also exercise a second extension until mid March of 2017. So ... legally, they are within their rights. But .... they lied to me about why things are late, they do not have the resources to deliver tax documents in a timely manner, they never explained this to me and gave me a false excuse instead, they do not mention this on the tax area of their website. I intend to keep riding this every day until my 1099 arrives. I have requested daily updates from my Fidelity representative in my local office. He just assured me that I will hear from him every day with a status update. I am currently in full ISO9000 documentation mode.<br />
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Feb 8, 2017<br />
I have learned that two of my positions I held in 2016 were limited partnerships and receiving documents for them is allowed to be later. I was also in error regarding a TD Ameritrade customer who had already received their 1099 who shared similar positions. It seems that they did not hold the actual securities as I did, they had options on those securities. I then called the Burbank office to try to ask them if they would be supplying the K1 forms necessary for filing as this was not explained. I was on hold a long time, then my call was sent to some office on the east coast, I told them I wanted to speak to Burbank, the original number I called, they would not transfer me back until I supplied a bunch of information. So .... the bigger issue remains .... poor service and no single point of contact.<br />
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Side note .... this is not the first Fidelity blunder. This issue was added to my original Fidelity complaints in another blog piece that can be seen at <a href="http://la-economy.blogspot.com/2013/03/asshat-of-day-award-fidelity-investments.html" target="_blank">http://la-economy.blogspot.com/2013/03/asshat-of-day-award-fidelity-investments.html</a><br />
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Feb 23, 2017<br />
I just received an email from Fidelity which told me that my complete 1099 would not be available until March 10. This keeps slipping. I contacted by Fidelity financial representative and instructed him to escalate this issue again and send me daily status updates. I instructed him to contact the entity that is holding up this process and supply me with specific information which I can use to focus accountability. I told him that if he runs into any sort of wall in his investigation that he is to escalate with somebody above him and give me their direct contact information.<br />
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Legally, Fidelity may be on legal ground but from a customer service aspect, to inform me with a date that my forms will be ready and to have this date slip three times at this point is irresponsible customer service at best and is a very poor reflection on Fidelity Investments. They may be fine all during the year when it is not near the end of the game but at the end of the game, tax season, they fail miserably and lose the game in a dramatic way.<br />
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I was told I'd be contacted today. To be continued.<br />
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0931pst - I just received a call from my Fidelity representative. He told me he contacted the party who is holding things up and will check and get back to my rep. I asked my rep to send me the information at the end of today in writing. <br />
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Feb. 24, 2017<br />
I talked to my personal Fidelity representative this morning. He is being quite helpful. I think we are on a track to resolution.<br />
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The following was received from Fidelity today:<br />
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<span class="data" id="newMessageText">Dear Mr. Rose:<br /><br />Thank you for your recent correspondence regarding the delayed availability of your IRS Form 1099 for the 2016 tax year. Your concerns were brought to the attention of our Executive Office for additional review, and I appreciate this opportunity to respond.<br /><br />I sincerely apologize for any inconvenience created by the delayed receipt of your 1099 form. I understand that this situation did not meet your expectations and assure you that this was not our intent. We believe that offering a superior customer experience is at the core of our continued success.<br /><br /><b>IRS guidelines state that 1099 forms should be mailed by financial institutions on, or prior to, February 15 or the next business day.</b> The guidelines allow financial institutions to apply for an extension to this deadline. On a regular basis Fidelity has applied for, and been granted this extension. Some companies have a history of restating the tax qualification of dividend and capital gains payments. These restatements require Fidelity to mail corrected 1099 forms for impacted customer accounts.<br /><br />If the tax treatment of a distribution changes, an amendment to a tax return may be required. Tax preparers may charge additional fees to file these amendments. Our delay in posting 1099 forms is designed to minimize fees encountered by our customers.<br /><br />The tax reporting statements for your accounts are currently visible on Fidelity.com and our records indicate a copy of these forms was mailed to your address of record. I confirm your feedback about the availability of your tax forms was forwarded to the appropriate senior management team within our organization for inclusion in ongoing efforts to improve the overall customer experience.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Kathleen Lathrop<br />Executive Office</span></div>
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It all started here with a letter to our mayor. This was published on the official Mayor website more than once, to the LAX Fly Away official website in the comment / customer contact application, more than once, and on Facebook.</div>
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Today, November 21, 2016, a group of disabled veterans flew to LAX from Chicago. They arrived at about 5pm. They have been trying to get on a LAX Flyaway bus to Van Nuys for hours. They were at Terminal 7. One bus after another passed by. Some said they were full. I was called and was at Van Nuys Flyaway waiting for their arrival. I tried to talk to the people in the office at the VN facility. They told me to have the people walk to Terminal 1 or they would never get a bus. I explained that these were disabled folks. Are you telling me to tell them to walk? They said yes. I asked for a company contact. They would not supply a company name, address, or provide any information. They would not give their names or any ID information.</div>
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You were pretty big on LA transportation issues during the recent election. I'd like to know who operates LAX Flyaway? What permits do they hold? Who are they owned by? </div>
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Please let me know how your office intends to address this issue. I am looking forward to a dialogue and a way to hold this company responsible at some level. #ABC7EYEWITNESS </div>
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<span style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;"><span style="background-color: #f1f0f0; color: #4b4f56; font-size: 12px;">Los Angeles World Airports (LAWA) is dismayed to hear of the situation described in your post on our Facebook page as well as the Mayor's. LAWA, a Los Angeles City department, oversees the LAX FlyAway Program. The poor customer service you described is not in alignment with our Program requirements. Currently, the LAX FlyAway routes are operated by two contractors, with the Van Nuys route operated by Pacific Coast Sightseeing Tours & Charters.
Your post was listed on 11/21. Please confirm the date and time of the incident. Your complaint will be forwarded to the operator for immediate investigation. A formal response with the outcome of the investigation will be sent to you directly by the contractor. In the future, please do not hesitate to send your comments regarding LAX FlyAway services directly to FlyAwayComments@lawa.org. Again, we apologize for any inconvenience caused by the described incident. Thank you very much in advance for your patience.</span></span></div>
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My reply - I also sent this to you folks on your page on the net in your comment area. Once on the 21st and once again on the 28th.</span></span>
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><b>Hi Myles,
We're unsure of what day this occurred, was it November 21?
We need to know the date this incident occurred please. What time did they arrive at the Terminal 7 LAX FlyAway stop?</b></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;">This was on 11/21. </span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;">All the details are in what I have sent already.</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;">I don't know when they arrived. After two hours of waiting we used Super Shuttle as we gave up waiting.</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;">If you ask me for details again I will assume this is just a stall tactic to avoid helping.</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;">Perhaps you'd like to call me so I can have a single point of contact for this issue?</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;">Again, date was 11/21. Time was 5pm to 7pm. Location was LAX terminal 7 for pick up from United Airlines from Chicago. Destination was Van Nuys from LAX. Both employees in the office there told me to tell folks to walk to Terminal 1 for pickup even after I told them, both of them, more than once, that this was a group of disabled veterans. Neither employee would give their name or a card or a phone contact of a supervisor or even information on who runs this service. They should both receive a serious reprimand at the least. Fined or fired would be more fitting. This breaks many laws in regard to handicapped access and service. </span></span></div>
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Please provide an email address and phone number so someone can contact you as soon as possible. Thank you.</b>
I have provided my email and phone multiple times on your contact form on your website where it is required, but, I will do it again. xxxx@email.com at xxx-yyy-zzzz.</span></span></span><br />
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I also request the name of the dispatcher who was on duty between 5pm and 7pm on November 21 2016. The fact that for over two hours they left passengers behind at the last terminals shows a profound lack of a basic problem solving skills that any elementary school student would possess, the problem solved easily .... alternate the pickup start from terminal 1 to terminal 4. </span></span></span><span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;">I await your reply. I am keeping track of your progress and timeliness or lack thereof.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="background-color: #f1f0f0; color: #4b4f56; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Hello Myles, we’re very sorry that this happened. We’d like to make things right. We’ve been talking with LAX and we would like to reimburse everyone for their cost. Can you please let us know the name, address, and phone number of the person/people who were charged for the service? Thank you for being patient and for alerting us that this happened.</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;">My reply:</span><br />
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="background-color: #4080ff; color: white; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Thank you for the offer. I am currently working with the flyaway folks. Reimbursement is not a viable response, holding the two women on duty that night is something that will help many rather than simply appease a few. Let's proceed on this tack.</span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;">Received a few minutes ago on 11/30 at about 9:20pst.</span></span></div>
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Thank you for the information. Someone will be contacting you for action. Thank you for your patience, we will get to the bottom of this.</b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap;">The following letter was received by me. The apology is is nice but since it did not address any of the points I requested to be addressed I find it somewhat shallow.</span></span><br />
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5144" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Mr. Rose-</span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><br />
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_4921" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Please see attached apology letter addressing your concerns with our service on 11/21/16.</span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><br />
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5138" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Please feel free to contact me should you have any questions.</span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><br />
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5139" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Thank you,</span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><br />
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5141" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5140" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">Kristin Martinez</b></span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><br />
<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5143" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5142" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">General Manager</b></span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><br />
<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5103" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5102" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">Pacific Coast Sightseeing Tours and Charters, Inc., a CoachUSA Company</b></span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><br />
<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5105" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5104" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">Southern California Gray Line</b></span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><br />
<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5107" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5106" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">800-828-6699</b></span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><br />
<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5109" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5108" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">714-507-1116 (direct)</b></span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><br />
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5115" style="background-color: white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_5114" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">kristin.martinez@coachusa.com</b></span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "helvetica neue" , "segoe ui" , "helvetica" , "arial" , "lucida grande" , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span>
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Mr. Rose, </span></span>
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<span style="font-family: "comic sans ms" , serif;">Thank
you for caring enough to share with Los Angeles World Airport your
frustrations, issues and concerns as it relates to the FlyAway
service on November 21, 2016. Most guests do not take the time to
“complain”; and, as we both know, if you are not aware of
problems, you can’t fix them. </span>
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<span style="font-family: "comic sans ms" , serif;">I
humbly apologize for our failure to provide timely service to your
group at LAX and the lack of customer service that you received from
our ticket agents at the Van Nuys station. Providing professional,
outstanding customer service is a top priority at Pacific Coast
Sightseeing Tours & Charters, Inc. Our company philosophy is to
do everything possible to ensure that each trip is a positive and
enjoyable experience. Although problems do occasionally occur, we
strive to minimize their effect on our guests. I am extremely
disappointed and apologize that was not the case with your group. </span>
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<span style="font-family: "comic sans ms" , serif;">I
understand from my discussions with Robin Brown, our Compliance
Supervisor, that you had two issues on your trip; overloaded buses
and unhelpful ticket agents. Allow me to address the overloaded buses
first. As the FlyAway service is a “first come first serve”
program, we do have a procedure in place to alert the guests on the
curb when their expected bus is overloaded. Should a bus overload,
the drivers are to contact our Dispatch to alert them of the
overload. Then they are to stop at all remaining terminals to alert
the waiting passengers of the overload. Dispatch then contacts the
next arriving driver and instructs them to begin their service at the
overload spot. In your instance, because of the Thanksgiving holiday
travel, the 17:30, 18:00 and 18:15 buses were all overloaded. The
second issue, as I understand it, was the lack of information and
customer service provided by our ticket agents at the Van Nuys
station. Although I cannot share the details of our investigation and
results, rest assured that we have taken the appropriate disciplinary
action necessary with the employees involved. </span>
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<span style="font-family: "comic sans ms" , serif;">Again,
I sincerely apologize for our failure to provide excellent customer
service to you and your group. It is my hope that this incident will
not prevent you from traveling with FlyAway in the future. In an
effort to gain back your patronage, on behalf of Pacific Coast
Sightseeing Tours & Charters, Inc., I would like to provide
complimentary roundtrip transportation to your group for a future
date. Please contact Robin Brown at </span><span style="color: blue;"><span lang="zxx"><u><a href="mailto:robin.brown@coachusa.com"><span style="font-family: "comic sans ms" , serif;">robin.brown@coachusa.com</span></a></u></span></span><span style="font-family: "comic sans ms" , serif;">
or 800-828-6699, ext. 71081.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-family: "comic sans ms" , serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">Kindest
Regards, </span></span></span>
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<span style="font-family: "times new roman" , serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: "comic sans ms" , serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">Kristin
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My response to the above letter which I sent:<br />
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_6063" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">Thank you for the apology. It really did not address my points on the employees who told me to have folks to walk to Terminal 1 from Terminal 7. </span></div>
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_6117" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">The explanation of what you do in high volume situations which you explained on the phone to me and explain a bit here, as a secondary point, did not work and was not followed.</span></div>
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_6192" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">The apology from the two people on staff would have been a bit easier to accept. The fact that they did not take responsibility makes me feel even less of them as individuals and makes me question your administrative practices including hiring.</span></div>
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481047830013_6290" style="-webkit-padding-start: 0px;">I hope this is not the end of this incident or dialogue but would not be surprised if I do not hear from you again in a step to actually answer my concerns.</span></div>
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myles111ushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05727652448443356303noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9096804090522313433.post-90011899537453207282016-03-29T09:42:00.003-07:002016-04-07T20:45:53.053-07:00Donald Trump - Make America Great?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Hey Mr. Trump. Open your eyes. The biggest problem we have here in America is that some of our largest companies not only send jobs overseas (I talked to ATT customer service people this weekend in India and the Caribbean), but also talked to supervisors in San Antonio Texas. Many (actually, most, if you read the two pieces where employees are noted by name, ID, time and date) of those they employ are incompetent, not empowered to take action to resolve problems, they pass the customer from one person to another only to have the dialogue repeat, and are technically inept, to start the proverbial list. <br />
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Mr. Trump. As long as the employees of our "flagship" corporations hire people that do not take pride in their work, cannot think outside the box, show little skill in the areas of people skills, <b>make the customer feel that they are of little or no value</b>, the lynch pin of your plans is flawed to say the least as the very foundation of corporate America is in shambles.<br />
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You say that you will make changes over time and things will improve? Look at the two links below to my experiences with ATT / Uverse since 2010. Thing were awful but then improved. This cycle was repeated a number of times only to end up in the proverbial toilet once again.<br />
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<a href="http://la-economy.blogspot.com/2012/07/at-so-wrong-in-every-way-part-ii.html">http://la-economy.blogspot.com/2012/07/at-so-wrong-in-every-way-part-ii.html</a><br />
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<a href="http://la-economy.blogspot.com/2010/11/at-so-wrong-is-every-way.html">http://la-economy.blogspot.com/2010/11/at-so-wrong-is-every-way.html</a><br />
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The first link is the most current, latest antics at the end of the piece. Two parts were necessary as the activity and documentation grew too large to add to the original piece. <br />
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1,175,826 reads of these two parts since November 2010. 23,918 reads since yesterday of the latest ATT / Uverse antics since 26 March 2016, less than three days.<br />
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As far as who may be your opposition, Hillary Clinton ..... It was under the Obama Administration that the historic profits for ATT and rate increases came and were tolerated if not outright supported. <br />
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I am not trying to turn this into a political piece. I am just stating that you look pretty darn foolish in my eyes when you wear that hat or utter those words based on personal experience and observation.<br />
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I may be be one of those Democrats which are cited as a Democrat who is in favor of "responsible" gun legislation. When can "we" expect some? <br />
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Can any of you give a single example of how any of the current proposed legislation or current laws would have stopped any of the horrid events we have seen in the past YEARS in the news or reported in the media?<br />
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Can any of you give me an answer of how any of your legislation will stop firearms from being acquired by people who do not follow laws?<br />
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These questions are for you, David Chiu - Tel: (415) 557-3013, Marc Levine Tel: (415) 479-4920, Tel: (707) 576-2631, and Philip Y. Ting - Tel: (916) 319-2019 (he has no facebook page or email info), and our California Attorney General Kamala Harris. <br />
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<a href="https://twitter.com/philting">https://twitter.com/philting</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/MarcLevine">https://twitter.com/MarcLevine</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/DavidChiu">https://twitter.com/DavidChiu</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris">https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris</a><br />
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Well, the Democrats have lost me.<br />
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In regard to Assembly Bills 1663 and 1664; People in California already went through a process deemed legal at the time of purchase of these firearms. They went through a background check, waiting period, registration process, and paid fees as noted in the graphic at the top of this piece.<br />
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To require additional fees and registration is not what I feel is "responsible legislation" on many levels, There are additional aspects to the legality, it not just the rationality, of AB 1663/1664. What about passing property down to heirs when I pass away? Firearms will be held to a different standard than other legally purchased items?<br />
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If I owned a classic car, the car could no longer be produced. Yet, I could sell the car or pass it down to my children. The car would retain full value. This is not the case here.<br />
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Our government insists that they are looking to enact registration and practices which do not take legally purchased property from people. This is clearly a road which is contraindicated. <br />
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If AB 1663/1664 is passed, I hope people will not take any steps to be compliant with this law. I hope they will be willing to be prosecuted. I hope the National Rifle Association will have attorneys available to represent us on a case by case basis. I also hope people bring cases into small claims court against the California Attorney General and the other individuals responsible for this bill for the loss of personal property and the value when the firearm cannot be sold, passed down to their heirs, or has lost it's value.<br />
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<a href="https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1663">https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1663</a><br />
<a href="https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1664">https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1664</a><br />
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Looking at these two bills raises a question. Is the object of our legislature to write the same bill multiple times with slightly different wording in the thought that one of them will go unnoticed by their constituents? I am insulted that you feel we are all that stupid and uninformed. Hopefully many will return the respect and sentiment when they vote.<br />
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Yes, I am a Democrat. I have been a member of the NRA on and off. My reason for leaving the NRA at times was that I felt that too many members made rash and emotional statements that reflected poorly on the organization. But, even to me, this reeks of a government wanting to eliminate firearms from being in possession of anybody other than those under direct control of the government in some manner such as law enforcement and our military.<br />
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I wonder how many people realize that this could classify pistols such as the M1911 pistol (Colt Government 1911) as an "assault weapon" as well? I am sure that the government hopes that most people don't realize this. <br />
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In the future, I intend to vote against any Democratic candidate for any position. I always used to vote for Assemblyman Mike Gatto as I felt he was one of the "good folks". Unfortunately, I will not feel comfortable doing that in the future as I will now see him as somebody that belongs to a bad organization. <br />
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I attempted to write each of you from your online contact website but was not allowed to do so as you are not in my district. Considering that the actions you have taken impact people outside of your district, I find this highly irresponsible. I tried to call numbers on your websites, including you Kamala Harris, and was received by automated phone systems that give lists of other departments or numbers to call. In the case of Philip Y. Ting. his numbers did not work, he does not have a Facebook page as other noted in this piece, and for a public official, is anything but accessible. <br />
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I have written all of you on Facebook (excepting Ting) with a few questions. As of this time I have received no response, not even a form letter. In the case of Ting, I did find a Twitter page where I asked him something. I have received no response. I am waiting.<br />
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<br />myles111ushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05727652448443356303noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9096804090522313433.post-82474492745105908722015-06-10T13:59:00.002-07:002016-04-02T09:17:14.718-07:00FrogLube - does it just work?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Many folks reading this are aware of the testing I have done on vacuum tubes and the claims of cryogenic testing. I have published reports on many things, based on scientific testing using scientific equipment based on my decades of QA / QC experience and held to ISO 9000 standards. which means the tests are documented and repeatable.<br />
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I am an avid firearms enthusiast. After hearing and reading the claims of this product I decided to look into this myself. I have used this product for almost two years. I have tested FrogLube against conventional products in actual use and in the lab. Is this a now a matter of cryro tube mumbo-jumbo, I asked myself.</div>
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FrogLube. Disabled Vet company. Make by Navy Seals. Well, as some of you know, I am also a disabled vet. I have known a few Navy Seals and some have seen the photos of my past. I guess Navy Seals can become lubrication chemists like anybody else but rather than let "American Sniper" influence things with cool references and buzz words I will just continue my quest for answers.</div>
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There has been a lot of FrogLube testing on the Internet. Here are a few examples.</div>
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Folks that have a lot of time on their hands to document how things rust. </div>
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Well, I don't leave my guns outside. I also clean and oil them after every use. I found that FrogLube does clean things very well and will keep things from rusting as will most any oil, especially if you lube your firearms on a regular basis and don't leave them outside for weeks on end.</div>
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Side note ... WD40 is a water displacement, not a lubricant. In a marine environment it actually promotes corrosion.</div>
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So .... I called FrogLube directly with a few questions. I was asked to email my questions to them directly. I did that on June 5. I also wrote them from two areas on their website. I also wrote them on their Facebook page. </div>
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I can't say much about their customer service other than it needs improvement. I finally got an email response today, after calling them again directly today after no reply. I talked to a nice fellow named Michael each time I called. Today, after an email from their tech folks, an email that skirted the questions, I asked to talk to somebody in their tech department directly. Michael informed me that he was the only one there and nobody was available. I asked myself, are these folks just grabbing some old Crisco and adding a bit of green color? It seems to meet all their claims and black powder shooters have been using the stuff for decades. Another version of cryogenic treating of objects?</div>
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<i>I wrote earlier today, and also called (and was asked to write as the person who answered the phone had no technical expertise, told me that, asked me to write). I wrote your tech folks from this website and also sent a normal email as per your request.</i></div>
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<i>Basic question .... You talk a lot about cleaning, rust prevention, corrosion, but there is little talk about lubrication. How does your coefficient of friction compare to products like Rem-Oil, Wilson Combat Ultimate Lube, M-Pro7?</i></div>
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<i>I called you folks and was asked to send my questions in an email.</i></div>
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<i>I was trained as an aviation metalsmith decades ago and have my A&P license. I have watched oils and lubricants change over the years.</i></div>
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<i>I shoot extensively. I have used your products and am generally satisfied but have a few questions.</i></div>
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<i>1. What is the lubrication component in Froglube? Is it an actual lubricant or is it that there is a lubrication side effect of the formula? </i></div>
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<i>Corn and vegetable based oils break down under pressure and friction. Looking at some of the wear patterns on some of my firearms makes me wonder about the lubricating properties of Froglube. Perhaps I'd have these same wear patterns using other products, it could just be time in use. So, my question ...</i></div>
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<i>2. Based on the above and tests of friction in a lab environment how do you folks test and compare your coefficient of friction with products such as MPro-7 or other common products on the market? Do you have any hard data or is your answer based on your "feeling" or observations? </i></div>
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<i>3. Have you tested and compared your product against mineral oils and synthetic oils?</i></div>
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<i>I have followed application instructions to the letter. I have been using your product on new and on worn arms. </i></div>
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<i>Thank you for your time. I look forward to your reply. Hopefully it will not be a press release, somebodies testimonial (opinion), and will be actual data. A lubrication company does have gear to measure coefficient of friction.</i></div>
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<i>Basic question .... You talk a lot about cleaning, rust prevention, corrosion, but there is little talk about lubrication. How does your coefficient of friction compare to products like Rem-Oil, Wilson Combat Ultimate Lube, M-Pro7?</i></div>
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Today I received the email below. I have altered the font to bold on some of the issues that I found a bit disconcerting. </div>
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1. FrogLube products utilize 'natural formulations' in our engineering process. The only difference between our formulas and petroleum - based products, such as MPRO 7, is the absence of petroleum as a basis. As far as ingredients, we are unable to reveal the ingredients due to the proprietary nature of the formulations. As far as we can determine, there are no others on the market that have been able to duplicate our degreasing solvent/lubricant system and in order to maintain our industry edge, we must keep those secret. Thanks for your understanding. </div>
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As far as 'wear patterns', you will likely see wear in any firearm moving part. Our system both removes surface fouling and absorbs into metal. Both are designed to reduce the incidence of wear and that is what we have observed in literally 100,000 rds of shooting. <b>You should expect at least a 30-40% reduction in wear </b>over the course of time. </div>
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2. We do have hard data which would require both a reason and the signing of a NDA for revealing the information. <b>We do not do lab comparisons with other products as a rule</b>; however, we do recommend functional testing such as round counts between failures, corrosion prevention and accuracy deviation. We suggest that you will discover substantive improvements in these types of empirical tests between your own firearms. </div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Your website has countless statements and references on how your products work better than others. Based on what? </span></div>
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3. <b>Again, we are not a testing company and we believe we have catapulted natural lubrication and cleaning solvents into the forefront of the firearms industry.</b> This industry leading posture keeps us in constant product development and our natural formulas are always being tested on the range and in firearms. Trying to compare our products to our competitors would be like comparing apples to oranges since there is too much of a difference between us to be of much use. </div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Again, based on what? You already stated that you do not compare your product to other products in the firearms industry. You believe? What's with all that other double speak? Apples and oranges? Are you saying synthetic versus petroleum based products? Hmmm. Probably not. Those were around long before you folks. You can eat it? Probably not that as you can eat Crisco. Maybe the color of green you use? I may have found the magic after all, or your point?</span></div>
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4. Our solvents clean ANY metal. Our lubricants work on all metals, but are influenced by the density of the metal (the more dense the metal, the less our lubricant absorbs) and/or the coating such as bluing. We have not seen any problems on ANY coating to date. Our data goes back to over 6 years of use across the industry.<b> If a coating is a bad coating, no product can save it. If it's a good coating, no amount of FrogLube can harm it. </b></div>
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As I informed Michael today, I would be very happy to talk about these points and would be thrilled to be enlightened if I have missed something. All I ask is a lack of personal opinion, double speak and marketing dialogue. I ask for actual data and straight answers. One should not have to sign an NDA to answer the question of which has a lower coefficient of friction, Frog Lube or product X (if product X is a well known product from a company in the industry, especially a company who has been around longer than you folks have been around.<br />
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<b>I will say that FrogLube is the best barrel cleaner and lube I have used. I use it extensively in my shotguns that get a lot of use, more than once every week, for trap and sporting clays. I use a case of shells per week on average, that's about 1,000 rounds per month. There is less streaking from plastic wads, cleanup is easier, and my chokes stay much cleaner and are easier to clean than I have found using any other product. That being said, if we can get some of my friction and wear questions addressed I'd be happy. </b> </div>
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At this point I think of you as the folks in the music industry that feel that they invented something new ... a solid state replacement for a vacuum tube that plugs into the slot for the tube. In the past they were known as FETrons but that was before many of the folks making the claim were around to have seen them in use. Just like vegetable oil based products, this stuff has been around a long time. Green Crisco? Well, the white stuff is still used by a lot of black powder shooters. </div>
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Now, if you want to start by answering my initial questions, directly and to the point, maybe I can help. I have a lot of experience in testing, metallurgy, and ISO 9000 QA and QC.<br />
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I am the first to stand up and support a veteran based business or to support veterans, disabled veterans, and work with Union Rescue Mission, in Los Angeles California <a href="http://www.urm.org/" target="_blank">www.urm.org</a>. the largest homeless mission in the United States, to help homeless veterans. Jumping on the "vet bandwagon" does not impress me much. There are millions of us. Jumping on the Navy Seal bandwagon raised a little bit of a red flag for me. I knew and worked with Navy Seals and one quality they seemed to all have was that they did not talk much about being a Seal. I guess things are different these days with the books and films about Seals but the Seals I worked with were cut from a different cloth. That has little to do with my questions and concerns, just a personal statement.<br />
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A bit more on FrogLube from another source<br />
<a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/02/21/froglube-is-probably-made-from-coconut-oil-not-frogs/">http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/02/21/froglube-is-probably-made-from-coconut-oil-not-frogs/</a></div>
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Side note: A few days later I tested Slip 2000. I found it had the lowest co-efficient of friction of anything I have tested (their "extreme weapons lube" products). I also contacted them. They provided extensive documentation. They spent a lot of time with me on the phone. I had used their choke tube cleaner for years.<br />
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I ordered some of their products. EWL in a light weight and their EWL grease. I have been using both extensively and exclusively at this point in time. In my Beretta 686 O/U shotgun I used to use STOS grease. I now use Slip 2000 grease. The Slip 2000 product works even nicer than the STOS.<br />
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This was not an instance of identity theft. This was not fraud. What this turned out to be was that a teller at a Wells branch in Houston Texas typed my account number off a sloppy customer withdrawal slip. Did the teller check the ID of the person she handed my money over to? Nope. Did she look at the person and ask why their address was in Houston when the account was not even in the state of Texas? Nope.</div>
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On 2/12 I talked to Bradon at 0935pst. He gave me a reference ID that never did work and when I escalated the problem I was given a new number. He was somewhat helpful but did not win any awards in my book.</div>
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Over the last two weeks I have talked to Alyssa in PA, Kenneth Hudson, Charolette (the worst of any of them), Kat (one of the supervisors), Pricilla, who gave me a claim reference number that finally worked, Patrick, Maribel (the Houston Asst. Branch Manager who did help me in one of the aspects of the problem), and today ( 2/23/15 at 9:35am PST) I spoke to <b>Wanda who told me somebody would call me back. I have not received a call back as a side note. </b>The only calls back today have been from Wells Fargo Social Media folks who called me after I complained on Twitter. By the way, the two folks who have called me via Twitter have been useless at best and ineptly unprofessional for the most part.</div>
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Bottom line ... When a bank can take money out of your account in seconds by mistake I think that it is only fair for them to resolve the issue in moments. As I said, this was an error on their part and as of this moment it has not been fully resolved.</div>
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Shame on you Wells Fargo. As the say in the world of social media ..... #FAIL </div>
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2/23 1:07pm PST Update: I was just called by Angela from Wells Fargo. She had no information on my problem and no information on me. She wanted my full account number and SSN. I asked if she was empowered to actually resolve my problem, that is, can she access my account. She said no, and would pass me along to somebody else. I explained that her intended action had been done countless times already and she has been nothing more than a call to attempt to appease me from my point of view. I asked her to pass my issue along to a somebody who could actually perform an action. <br />
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At this point it is clear that the Wells Fargo customer service organization is little more than a roadblock between a problem and it's resolution. Too many people, too many departments, nobody empowered to do anything other than pass a customer on to somebody else, VERY slow claim response, and a lack of communication between departments, people and resources.<br />
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I will continue to update this if and when there are changes or additional actions taken. <br />
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2/23/15 4:42pm PST<br />
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Wells Fargo Social Media called me at 3:40pm PST. Ivan Cathus left a message for me to call him back. I called back at 4:30pm PST as I had been driving and do not call talk on the phone while in motion. Ivan was not there. My call was picked up by Marisol who informed me that Ivan is not in the office.<br />
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Marisol wanted all the same information all over again. Rather than go through this insane process yet again I asked her straight out .... If you verify my account information do you have the ability, tools, and authorization to make changes to the balance in my account? She said she did not. She would need to refer me to somebody else. I was left thinking .... are these folks clueless, incompetent, totally untrained, liars (I was told by Angela that somebody who could actually help would call me), or just plain stupid?<br />
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This blog piece was created on 2/23/15 at 11:03am PST. At this point in time 2,473 people have read this piece. As of 7:00pm PST there have been 5,433 reads of this piece. Thanks to many of you on Twitter for the RT. <br />
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Update as of 3/9/2015<br />
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Well, I did not put this piece into my distribution mechanism but it still managed to receive 11,609 reads as of today.<br />
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This will probably be my last entry as it looks like my balance is finally correct once again as of today with the last account adjustment. Now, as long as things stay the way they are now, I can put this behind me. Almost a month for Wells Fargo to resolve this problem. By the way, those folks that promised to call me? Never happened. <br />
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<b>July 21, 2016</b><br />
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Here we go again. Horrid customer service. A problem that will not go away. Another instance of a financial institution hanging on to your money to inflate their reported daily balance to the government. Basically, fraud, but this is addressed to their customer service.<br />
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On July 17, 2016, I ate at the Hamburger Hamlet restaurant in Van Nuys California. My credit card was accidentally charged for the meal at another table. The mistake was caught by our server and she brought me a voided receipt for the charge, a charge which I did not sign. My proper charge was applied to my credit card.<br />
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A few days later my correct charge cleared but the voided charge still remained in what the bank calls "pending transactions". This is sort of a limbo area where the bank ties up your money. It is not subtracted from your actual balance but it IS subtracted from your available balance. You do not have access to your money.<br />
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When this did not come off my information I called the bank. Well, to be more accurate, over the next four days I called the bank, their credit card services, their customer service numbers, talked to folks in the Philippines and all over the place. Seven different people in all, each no help, each providing different information, each telling me I need to call somebody else. The manager at Hamburger Hamlet also got involved to help. They gave him a number to call where he and I needed to call them at that number to resolve the problem. We called. I was told to call somebody else. <br />
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At one point I was offered the option to "dispute the charge". I explained there was no charge. It was a pending transaction. I asked how long it would take to clear the pending transaction via a dispute. I was told it would take up to sixty days. I declined to take that option.<br />
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So, to you folks at Wells Fargo, it has been an experience being a customer of yours for over three decades. I will be heading down the road to Logix. You folks have some of the worst customer service in the business, and that includes additional social media contact experience that are not even added to the count of worthless individuals. <br />
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<b>Update 7/22/2016 10:00pst</b><br />
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I have just returned from a face to face meeting with David Petrosyan, Branch Manager / Vice President, of the Burbank San Fernando Blvd Wells Fargo office.<br />
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He was no help. He called other folks, and they too, came up with different stories. In the end I was told that it would be at least two weeks before the voided charge came off my account.<br />
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David blamed Hamburger Hamlet. David blamed Visa. David pointed the finger everywhere else. It was clear from the conversation he had with other Wells Fargo folks that he did not understand the processes at all.<br />
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I explained that my issue had nothing to do with the banking industry. It was an issue with Wells Fargo customer service which included him. A dozen different stories over less than a week with a dozen different people. Nothing resolved. <br />
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I will be tracking how long this takes to reach resolution. I guess it's in "the cloud" now, far beyond the reach or explanations of Wells Fargo Customer Service (at any level). <br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">It's a sad day when the VP / Branch Manager, blames everybody else for bad customer service and does nothing to resolve the issue. What is that old phrase about promoting people to a level of incompetence? Great example here. No people skills, not able to do anything other than blame others and is not empowered to do anything to help.</td></tr>
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At 11;14am pst I talked for 14 minutes to Wells Fargo corporate who called me. Guess what? She did nothing, was not able to help, and told me to wait at least two weeks for resolution. <br />
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<b>August 13, 2016</b><br />
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A new issue. A different subject. Well, maybe not different as it directly points out more issues of poor customer service by Wells Fargo related to a different incident.<br />
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Earlier this week I was in a Wells Fargo branch office, actually, the same one on the card in the earlier post above. I was there with some other folks and was waiting as they carried out their business.<br />
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I noted signs that stated a 1.5% cash back rewards credit card. My current Wells card only had 1% cash back. I asked one of the folks that wander around in suits, the plus and minus of the new offering compared to my current card. He could not tell me much. First red flag.<br />
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He told me, all I had to do was call the number on the back of my card and I would be sent a new card. The next day I called the number. Bottom line .... I was on the phone with many folks, all over the globe, from the island of Luzon to the USA. Over the course of many calls I was told many different things. One person told me to keep my current 1% card as it might be advertised as 1% but if I look online in the Wells reward program I could pick specific places such as grocery stores, and add them to my bonus program for rewards from 5% to 40% and even cooler offers. I looked. The offers that were more than 1% were not applicable to my credit card use to say the least. Mail order makeup? If I am going to shop online for savings it will be from Amazon. As far as Ralph's Market, my most used market, there were no offers. Bottom line, there was no advantage with my current card including fees, interest, etc.<br />
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So ... sign me up for the new card! Should be simple. Right? <br />
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After numerous calls where I was bounced from credit card services to credit card rewards program to customer service, I was told that "this cannot be done over the phone, you need to apply in person at a branch office".<br />
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I then called Fidelity Investments who had offered me a 2% card, $2000 point bonus, lower interest, and the same no fees. Better in every way, especially the customer service.<br />
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So .... looks like my Wells Fargo credit card my be gathering dust in the future when that new green Fidelity card arrives. <br />
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September 14, 2016<br />
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In case I needed another reason ....<br />
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This morning I awoke to find no text alert that my social security benefits had been deposited. For years this has always been the case. What was the deal here?<br />
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Well, over an hour on the phone with Wells Fargo and many different answers.<br />
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It seems the funds arrived at Wells Fargo around midnight as usual. This was according to Joe P at Wells Corporate in Tempe AZ. It was the same answer I received from the rep I spoke to prior to Joe P. The rep prior to them? Well, when I called the account questions number on the Wells website I was sent to card services, and they had to send me elsewhere. <br />
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I posted a complaint on twitter. This was after Joe P told me that the money was in process at I should see it by the close of business today. While I was on the phone with Wells, after my twitter complaint, the funds posted at 9:20am. <br />
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I was told the reason for the issue was that my "personal banker", or the person who is in charge of my account, had neglected, had dropped the ball, on updating my bank info with Social Security. My original account had been deleted. Why two accounts? Scroll way up there to see why I had to close an account and open a new one. A Wells teller in Texas gave somebody money out of my account, but I digress. I was told this would be a seamless changeover, and it had been fine for months. My car payment had problems last month as a side note due to Wells Fargo changes.<br />
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So, I asked, who is my account manager? I was given a number to call. The number was in the Westlake CA, branch. I was then speaking to Asst Branch Manager Oshin Artoonian. This guy did not have a clue. He said he had the same tools as everybody else yet could not see when the deposit arrived. Three other people told me exactly, to the minute, when it arrived. The fellow could not offer any reason why things were late. He came up with one excuse after another. He did not really understand customer service as he kept interrupting me. I finally had to tell him to just shut up. He hung up on me.<br />
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My personal thinking on the delay is Wells Fargo may do this on purpose now to inflate their daily reported balance to the Fed. It's getting to be pretty clear that some of their banking practices are suspect (as reported in the news) and their customer service has declined in the past few years to say the least.<br />
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My earlier report in this piece in regard to my Wells Fargo credit card? Well, as they can see, I stopped using my Wells card and now use a card from another financial institution. Better rewards too and MUCH better alerts. On my Wells card I would get a text alert 24 hours after a charge was posted, that more than $1 was charged to my card. With my new card from another institution I get a text alert as to the name of the place, the exact charge, and it comes to my phone as I am leaving the place where the charge was made at the latest, and usually, even before I get up from my seat if it was a restaurant.<br />
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October 1, 2016<br />
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I received a piece of mail from Wells Fargo that stated, due to possible fraud and in order to increase security my debit card would be replaced with a news one.<br />
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So, later in the month a new card arrives. It has a different account number. The old number is instantly cancelled upon card activation. Looks like a bit of changing charge card info on accounts that charge to this card is necessary. Again. <br />
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"Wells Fargo - making a bank experience as difficult as it can be". Feel free to use that new slogan you asshats.<br />
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Wells Fargo, in the words of social media .... #fail .... again. <br />
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<b>November 23, 2016</b><br />
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I have been a Wells Fargo customer for decades. Never an issue..... until, the last year or so. Now a slew of them. You folks have really gone down to proverbial toilet.<br />
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The latest, this month ... you updated your website account application and your mobile application. <br />
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All alerts that were set up for customers stopped working and needed to be set up from scratch, again.<br />
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This would have been a step ahead, the updates, IF ..... you would have ported over existing alerts so they just did not stop with no warning or explanation. At the least, an email or text explaining that alerts were now inactive and one needs to set them up again.<br />
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Banking with you folks is like stepping in one pile after another, always an unpleasant surprise. <br />
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<b>January 27, 2017</b><br />
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Continuing to watch as your organization falls farther behind in any level of service.<br />
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Your mobile app is the worst in the business. <br />
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As you can see from time stamps, the alert came a day after the charge. My other bank sends me the alert within moments of the charge, the exact amount of the charge, the name of the establishment of the charge. This information arrives even before I get back to my car when leaving the place of the charge.<br />
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My mistake! It had less to do with technology than poor customer service. <br />
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Basically, I had alerts set up at one time. They stopped because Wells Fargo changed things, without warning or notice, so everybody had to sign up / activate their alerts again. Then they worked in a limited fashion. I complained and reported details. A bit of time went by, and multiple folks and I talked, with no resolution. Different story from each contact and little understanding from any of them.<br />
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I had a thought. If they changed something again, perhaps one had to sign up again? Sure enough, in the mobile app there was a new expanded section that had about a dozen pull down menus. You set up an alert for text, push notifications, email, card, account, and many other options and selections that were necessary. A shining example of a pathetic excuse for a user interface.<br />
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A little tip to Wells Fargo on apps and software development based on my decades of experience in this area ..... If folks use you for banking services .... checking, savings, credit card, loan, whatever ... try wrapping your head around this concept. A customer is an individual. A single person. Perhaps a single box to check which says ..... "send me alerts on any of my account activity".... is all that is necessary. <br />
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The issue here was once again .... inept customer service which included bad info from your service people and additionally, bad implementation from your programmers and software developers.<br />
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One piece I wrote received enough attention that John Boener included it in his newsletter. Guess they only looked at the one piece and thought they had me figured out. I guess they used it as fodder in reference to the economy.</div>
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My political posts focus on the inept actions of our Government, at all levels. No state has a monopoly on lack of sense, lack of participation on the part of our representatives, folks we have elected that end up being prosecuted for criminal behavior, or just doing things that we would not expect from a twelve year old.</div>
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I am not what some would label as a political person. I focus my attention on things I enjoy and watching political antics are things that I don't have to seek out. A few minutes watching the news is enough to disgust anybody.</div>
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Mike Gatto. California State Assembly. Does the guy just phone it in? Nope. Does he miss meetings? No. Are there photos of him on the internet playing solitaire during session or dozing off? No. Does he go along for the ride and do little or nothing? Nope.</div>
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I guess I could list all the things he does not do. I will also say that I might not agree or disagree with everything he has done or is doing. But .... yes, the proverbial "but", if you look at his 2014 legislation (heck, go back to 2010 if you wish), you will find he is very active and has done a lot of really great things for the people that put him in office. Look at his record at <a href="http://asmdc.org/members/a43/legislation/2014-legislation">http://asmdc.org/members/a43/legislation/2014-legislation</a>. Stuff that actually makes sense, well to me anyway.</div>
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Many of you reading this in California are not in District 43 so why should you care? Two reasons. </div>
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1 - Here are some facts that give us hope that not all folks in politics are crooks, lazy, liars, lack leadership, stall the government like a six year old when things don't go their way, folks incapable of working with others, or just plain criminals like Senator Yee right here in California. There is that needle in the haystack.</div>
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2 - If Mike Gatto can be convinced by others to run for Governor of California then many of you can vote for the man and would be making a good call. </div>
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I have written a number of pieces on politics and some of the leaders that run this country. I have been following Mike Gatto, my assemblyman. I have been happy with many of the things he has done. ... most of them.</div>
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I am now watching him closely in regard to a particular bill in process, SB53. You can read the full context of SB 53 here if you want to take a crack at figuring out what is actually happening in this mess at <a href="https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB53">https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB53</a></div>
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In any event, the Principal coauthor, Yee has been found to be a criminal as a side note.</div>
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Recently I wrote Mike Gatto. I am waiting for a response. What I wrote and the rest of the story can be seen if you click on "read more" below.</div>
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I sent you a message a few days ago and have received no response. I was a supporter of yours and wish to know your thoughts on this bill. You have voted in favor of this bill in the past yet I felt you were a reasonable politician and had some faith which is why I wrote the message to you. </div>
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I am strongly opposed to SB53. The provision of this bill that makes mail order ammunition sales illegal is a problem for me. The fact that it was co-authored by Yee, a known criminal at this point in time, is one more reason the bill should be tossed. When judges are found to be corrupt their convictions can be overturned. Yee should have anything he was a part of be overturned.</div>
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Online sales is a form of business that keeps sporting ammunition prices more competitive. There are other ways one could have checks and guidelines other than making the practice illegal. </div>
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SB53 is one more shining example of folks like DeLeon and Yee putting everything but the proverbial kitchen sink in a piece of legislation. If folks don't believe me they need to read the bill at the link posted earlier in this piece. It is easy to see why so many folks think our lawmakers are out of control. To digress for a moment ... Making BB guns illegal for example unless translucent or brightly colored? This is a great example of the overboard insanity going on in government. At night colors are not visible. How many times has a child been shot by law enforcement by mistake when the child was holding an airsoft gun which was brightly colored .... or not colored at all? More than a few times unfortunately. This has little to do with the end product and has much more to do with the education of people, better training for law enforcement, and the enforcement of existing laws. </div>
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Criminals love guns being made harder to get as they could care less about the law. Less guns in homes, better odds for them. </div>
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I will be keeping an eye on SB53 as this is something that is tied directly to your scope of influence.</div>
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One more group found filled with inept people who are ineffective and whose customer service department is a roadblock to problem resolution rather than a solution to the problem.</div>
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As of today there have been over a half a dozen calls placed to not only TFS (Toyota Financial Services) and to Toyota Corporate on three occasions, the first call to my dealer, Keyes Toyota in Van Nuys. At this point in time the problem remains.</div>
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The mail I received had my account number needed for setting up of the account as well as my name which was incorrect. They had my first and middle name rather than my first and last name. No problem I thought, I would set up my account and edit my name.</div>
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I started the process and all was going fine until I tried to change my "last name" to my real last name. I received a message that my account number did not match my name. I continued the process and it built my account using my incorrect name. </div>
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Rather than continue with my financial information which may have caused problems as my bank has my actual name rather than my incorrect name I called Keyes Toyota in Van Nuys to talk to their finance department.</div>
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At 5:12PM on July 26 I talked to Wolfgang. He said he was the finance manager. He told me to call TFS even after I had explained the issue. His reply was that Toyota and Toyota Financial Services had nothing to do with each other and he had no contact with them. He could not help me. He offered no suggestion other than to call them. </div>
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I spent over two decades in Quality Assurance, Quality Control and Customer Service. I told Wolfgang that both "sides" of the company were indeed called Toyota and a lack of customer service from any part of Toyota reflects on the company. His reply was that there was nothing he could do. He said he had NO contact with them. On Monday I found out he had lied to to me when TFS and he were on the phone together during this debacle.</div>
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July 28 9:00am PST. I called TFS. My service rep was named Ashley. She spoke very quickly and was hard to understand. I suggested that when she talked to people in her line of work she speak more slowly and more articulately. It was clear to me that she was not very well trained in either customer service or procedure. She needed to send me to a supervisor. After a long hold (Ashley said it would be a minute or two which it was not) I was speaking with Kim.</div>
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Kim said it would take at least 1-2 days to fix as they had no way to contact the right people on the phone. She said they needed an email from her side of TFS. I said this was unacceptable and asked to speak to her supervisor. She refused to escalate or honor my request. She said I should call Toyota Customer Service at 1-800-331-4331 which I did.</div>
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Chris (TFS Corporate Customer Service) and I talked on the phone for a long time. They had the dealer on the phone and TFS on the phone. Chris appeared to have thing straightened out and told me that the dealer had faxed them my information which was just received by TFS. He said things would work tomorrow.</div>
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I attempted to log on to my account. While I was in the process of seeing that this was not fixed a call came in from Chris who left a message saying it would not be fixed until tomorrow ... yes, another tomorrow.<br />
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He told me that one update superseded another update or this update overwrote that update or whatever and said it would work tomorrow.</div>
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Well, the problem remains at this point in time and it is clear to me that internal communication within the Toyota organization is poor to say the least. Customer service does not have the power or tools to follow through. People pass problems down the line and even when you get to Corporate they just follow procedure even when the procedures fail. As a point of interest for those who have read my pieces on ATT and other companies. When you get to Corporate levels they resolve problems. In this case I have been told "tomorrow" more than once.<br />
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<b><i>I would like to say that Chris has been very good in keeping the communication going. He has called me and has kept up with me via DMs on twitter. I feel sorry for the man. It is clear he is trying to do a good job and is concerned for the customer. Unfortunately he is working within an organization that is working against him. I would also like to add that he is the only person at "Toyota" whether it be customer service, corporate, TFS or even the financial arm of my dealer (Wolfgang, Finance Manager at Keyes Toyota in Van Nuys) that was helpful. </i></b></div>
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<b>Update 7/29/14 12:30pst</b><br />
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I just received a call from Carnita from Toyota. Yesterday she said she would call me today with updates and she did that as promised. She informed me that things would be resolved tomorrow. I told her that Chris had told me the same thing yesterday and again today. <br />
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I explained to Carnita that I had no intention of charging Toyota for doing QA/QC work for them. You cannot resolve problems unless they are identified. I asked her to please let me know when they identify the source of the bad data entry on my account. I do not need to know who made the mistake, I just wish to know if Toyota knows who made the mistake. They are the first link in a chain that has reached 6,251 people since 9:52am this morning when this piece was published. Carnita assured me that when the fault for data entry was identified she would let me know.<br />
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<b>7/30/14 Update</b><br />
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I logged on this morning and saw that some of what I had been promised had been accomplished. My name was correct on one part of my documentation, the account info. This allowed me to perform some transactions. <br />
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This is a workable state of affairs.<br />
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Unfortunately, this made me feel even a bit worse about Toyota and their lack of attention to detail and lack of professionalism, especially after this problem has been brought to the attention of so many people at so many levels within the organization.<br />
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Even though the important information is now proper so my financial information is correct it seems my name is still listed and displayed incorrectly everywhere else on the TFS pages. Here are just two examples.<br />
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I don't know what more I can say but will see how long this takes to get resolved, if it ever gets resolved. If there is ANY CHANCE trying to fix my display name will cause ANY problems just leave things alone as there is no way I want to resurrect this problem.<br />
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<b>7/31/14 Update</b><br />
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Just logging into to see if my payment was processed. Unfortunately I found this:<br />
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I am starting to believe my initial experiences with TFS are the start of a very bad journey that will last many years.<br />
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The problem has been resolved. <br />
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<b>4/9/17</b><br />
<b>New car, new lease, new Toyota problems.</b><br />
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<b>Toyota Financial Services ..... Your dealer, Keyes Toyota in Van Nuys, made a deal. We have a signed agreement. If you want more money for a deal that was completed, signed, and done over a month ago, with nothing marked as due in the future, after the car was fully inspected, 2/3 less mileage on the car than allowed in the lease agreement, well then .... go collect from your dealer. </b><br />
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4/11/2017 - waiting for letter of paid in full and check on my overcharge.<br />
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4/22/2017 - still no letter and still no check as promised.<br />
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If you have an hour or two to waste, time you will never get back, and want to get laid off or fired from work for messing around at work just watch the slide show at the bottom of this piece. Heck, leave it running on your computer and work when you leave your desk and people will never again look at you in the same way.<br />
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There are over 3,000 random snapshots in my Coffee Table Book collections. I am creating this blog post to bring my sanity into question based on my lifestyle as depicted in these shots as I live my life. I am posting this in honor of one of my favorite amp techs in Los Angeles who has commented more than once about some of my antics.</div>
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On a side note, his name is Mike Franceschini and if you need your amp worked on, fixed, modded or restored you can find him at <a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/classic-amp-repair-north-hollywood">http://www.yelp.com/biz/classic-amp-repair-north-hollywood</a> The photo below is Mike at work.<br />
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<span style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="background-color: white;"><b>Many of you have read my consumer posts on ATT, Sprint, BWP, and other customer service examples of poor service and general ineptitude. Well folks, it seems as if there is a new winner in WORST customer service that I have experienced....<span style="color: #454545;"> </span><span style="color: blue; font-size: large;">Century Link</span></b></span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">On Friday I spoke to an employee who helped sign us up but did not give a date for turn on stating their calandra system was down and they would call back. He said by waiting we would be able to have service turned in this week, not next week. No employee number but an order confirmation #: Nxxxxxxx. They never called back. </span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span><span style="background-color: white; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">(Confirmation number omitted for security reasons but it is on record).</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">Today I first spoke with Lorenzo (employee id: ischirr) who told me fires in Sedona caused our date to be pushed back. He transferred me to Omar (employee id: 0194801) in customer escalations who told me nothing could be done and he said he did not have a boss. After asking many times he transferred me to his boss Denise (no employee id). She told me a note would be sent to dispatch to move us up if a slot opened. When I tried to confirm this with Shane (employee id: aa88550) it was not confirmed. Shane transferred me to Matt who transferred me right away to his manager Morris who said he refused to transfer me to anyone higher up and refused to let me speak to anyone in dispatch. He then hung up on me when I clearly said not to. Morris was particularly rude.</span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Small extra thing: on hold it clearly advertises speeds up to 40 MBps as in bytes but they actually only offer speeds up to 40 Mbps as in bit. Not very professional for an ISP</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Back to my own experience ...</b></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>I called their 1-800-244-1111 number. After being on hold for over ten minutes I was talking to Katrina. She did not give me her employee number. She was no help. Repeat .... NO HELP. I asked for a supervisor and was sent to Jennifer who said she was the floor supervisor. No help once again. She said she had no information and refused to escalate my call to somebody who could help. Bad attitude I might add.</b></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white;"><b><span style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;">I am now on a call with Jaime. She has a good attitude and is trying to fix things. She called my son to get authorization for me to speak on his behalf. Jaime said an order was placed Monday. I said, no, the order was placed last week and gave her the confirmation number. I also pointed out that the person who was supposed to call them back never did. Jaime said they had a computer issue. I explained a bit about my background in the data comm industry both from a technical and customer service aspect and I did not care what happened as we are now in a mode of problem resolution not finger pointing. She agreed and is currently looking to see if they can accommodate a request for compensation for a faster service establishment.</span></b></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white;"><b><span style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;">Jaime came back on the line. She tried but the turn on date is going to stay at 6/3 with turn on at 8pm. We will see if that happens.</span></b></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white;"><b><span style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;">Meanwhile .... When I was at Infonet and my folks handled engineering and customer service, if I ever saw a report like this I would bring each named employee into my office. I would send them home for one week and put a letter in their file for VERY poor customer service and for being a very poor representative of the company. In the case of Jaime, I would put a letter of commendation in her file and either demote Morris, Jennifer or both and promote Jaime to their position. Technical issues are one thing. A bad attitude and misleading the customer is something else.</span></b></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white;"><b><span style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;">I will be keeping an eye on Century Link. My confidence level in them is very low. I also think the government business folks need to look into why they are the only service provider in the area.</span></b></span><br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Corey. Is that great customer service or what? When one can't get through on the phone you tell them to send an email. You are kidding right? If not it seems you really have no clue in regard to customer service.</td></tr>
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<span style="background-color: white;"><b><span style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;">If something is done in a professional way I will update this post and mention the action. So far the only one who has shown any level of service and a good attitude has been Jaime.</span></b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="background-color: white;"><b>The joker on twitter customer service for CenturyLink, Corey, was sadly amusing when he suggested I contact them via email when I was on hold waiting for customer service to answer. As a side note, ATT and Sprint have been very good in regard to their twitter customer service presence. They each use DM and work the issue unlike these CenturyLinkHelp jokers.</b></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="background-color: white;"><b>And from - </b></span><b><a href="http://centurylink.pissedconsumer.com/">http://centurylink.pissedconsumer.com/</a></b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>It is now 5:10pm PST. This piece was published at 3:28pm PST. It has already risen to 3rd most read piece for the running week with<span style="color: #454545;"> </span>4,015 reads.</b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="background-color: white;"><b>I just received an email from Centurylink in response to an email I sent yesterday:</b></span></span><br />
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<span id="yui_3_7_2_1_1401318081315_10556" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">The account number is xxxxxxxxxx. My son is in Flagstaff AZ. I am here in Los Angeles. I can be reached at 1-818-yyy-zzzz. I do not answer my phone when I drive so if you leave a message be sure to leave a direct call back number as I am fed up with being on hold at your 800 number.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="background-color: white;"><b>Thank you Corey Tidwell for your involvement in these issues and restoring my hope that the ongoing relationship we now have with Centurylink will be a good one.</b></span></span><br />
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This morning I woke up thinking about my friend Dan Boul. OK. That may be a bit misleading. I love Dan like a brother but .... </div>
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I had a huge dinner which may have contributed to weird dreams. Could that have contributed? My Facebook friends are aware of the dinner I had last night as a side note.</div>
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The thought was about the day The Whiskey died a few weeks ago. </div>
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<a name='more'></a>OK. First off, even with three marriages under my belt I am not ready to convert to the other side even if Dan Boul has hair that is a continual topic of conversation by some of my friends.<br />
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In March of 2002 Groove Tubes was working on a new tube release, their 6L6GE. I had some of the first of these at Guitar Amplifier Blueprinting that I was testing for Aspen Pittman at Groove Tubes. I had not yet become an employee. My findings and commentary can be seen in the 2002 piece on this page if you scroll down a bit. <a href="http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/6v6.html">http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/6v6.html</a></div>
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The 6L6GE was released in May of 2002 and was one of the best 6L6 tubes I ever tested or used. I coined the phrase NVM - New Vintage Manufacture which explains in the piece if you follow the link.</div>
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I kept one of the tubes I had running in a fixture I used to test tubes for life. During my six plus years at GT my test tube continued to run at full output. 24 hours a day, seven days a week, audio signal into a load. </div>
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The operation stopped two times. Once when I shut down the test fixture to transport it to GT for Aspen to see my rig and when my rig went back home to resume the test. Aspen wanted me to give him the tube as a keepsake but I refused. The getter flashes were getting smaller and had rings but the tube still tested to spec and I was not about to quit. Bottom line, the tube ran for 9,164 hours. Over one year of continual use at an output that cycled from 40%-125% every six minutes for over a year. </div>
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Move forward to 2014. The scene ... Dan Boul's house getting ready for his weekly show (normally done from a studio) with some cool folks. Howard Johnson (great fellow, musician) and Frank Falbo who builds some amazing instruments - <a href="http://www.falboguitars.com/">http://www.falboguitars.com</a> Frank had brought a speaker cab of his own new design to the interactive webcast to be shown to the audience and participants in the weekly broadcast.</div>
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The speaker cabinet needed to be driven by two amps and we had a Producer, London and The Whiskey available. We grabbed The Whiskey as one of the amps and a vintage small combo from Dan's inventory.</div>
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Things sounded good but we were not blown away. Something was wrong. Investigation discovered that one of the two output tubes had failed. </div>
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I am not going into the type of brand of tube in this piece. I will state that The Whiskey is not one of Dan's low voltage / high current designs. The output section is very vintage plexi Marshall like in design voltages and not the extreme voltage examples that were found in some cases. Pretty straight ahead voltages. </div>
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Well, unlike the single GT 6L6GE mentioned above earlier that impressed me, the failure of this tube gave me a few things to ponder.</div>
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The tube had very little use on it. Maybe 100 hours at the most. Probably closer to 50. The amp had been used in a few gigs so it had a little travel time. Travel time? The amp traveled short distances in the back of a Honda Odyssey that rides smooth. We're not talking about bouncing amps down the interstate for hundreds of miles, night after night, behind a Kenworth or Peterbilt with a trailer in tow. We are not talking about Michael Burks (we miss you brother. RIP) towing a trailer behind a conventional van with his Empire amps and a Hammond B3 and Leslie 300 days a year.<br />
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This single tube affirmed that you cannot count on current production tubes. Players always need to have a spare set of tubes when they gig or travel AND just because they are new in the box it does not mean they are good. Run them in your amp for at least ten hours before they are to be considered known good spares (even if they will probably be short lived).<br />
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Last night I spent the evening on the streets of Skid Row in Los Angeles California. Los Angeles is home to the highest homeless population in the nation.<br />
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I spend a fair amount of time on these streets. I have spent time on the street since 2009. In that time I have met some amazing folks. There are a number of stories in my blog over the years on the subject. I have also taken photos over the years at times. I did not take the photo above but it has always been one of my personal favorites. Some of my own photos can be seen at:</div>
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #37404e; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;">Last night I spent the evening on skid row. I walked the area, talked to folks, passed out a few healthy snacks and counted people. </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #37404e; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;">The problem of homelessness is not going away. In fact, it is not getting better. It is getting worse.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #37404e; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;">The city of Los Angeles is allocating 3.7 million dollars to clean up skid row. Not to address the problem .... just to make the problem less visible for a f</span><span class="text_exposed_show" style="background-color: white; color: #37404e; display: inline; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;">ew months.<br /><br />The folks at places like <a data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/page.php?id=12784656483&extragetparams=%7B%22directed_target_id%22%3A0%7D" href="https://www.facebook.com/unionrescuemissionla" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;">Union Rescue Mission</a> / <a data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/user.php?id=1199574279&extragetparams=%7B%22directed_target_id%22%3A0%7D" href="https://www.facebook.com/abales" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;">Andy Bales</a> and folks at <a data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/page.php?id=48782392936&extragetparams=%7B%22directed_target_id%22%3A0%7D" href="https://www.facebook.com/TheMidnightMission" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;">The Midnight Mission</a> / <a data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/user.php?id=1054196688&extragetparams=%7B%22directed_target_id%22%3A0%7D" href="https://www.facebook.com/larry.adamson" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;">Larry Adamson</a> can use your help. The situation will not improve using the same limited resources and thought processes that have failed for years. The reason I mention Andy and Larry is that hopefully our local city government can grab the two of them and form a committee that will listen to them blindly rather than continue to fail.<br /><br />You can help. Look at these two organizations mentioned above. Learn more.</span></div>
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Some of his own thinking can be seen at -</span><a class="" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30437759:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$range3:0" dir="ltr" href="http://urm.org/category/rev-andys-blog/" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">http://urm.org/category/rev-andys-blog/</a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
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<span class="text_exposed_show" style="background-color: white; color: #37404e; display: inline; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435625:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body" style="background-color: #fafbfb; color: #4e5665; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14.079999923706055px;"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435625:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435625:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435943:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435943:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435943:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435970:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435970:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435970:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435987:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435987:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30435987:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30436275:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30436275:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30436275:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30437753:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30437759:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body"><a class="UFICommentActorName" data-ft="{"tn":";"}" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=518559886&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$author" href="https://www.facebook.com/mylesr" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Myles Rose</a><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:2"> </span><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.0"><a class="profileLink" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=672336271&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.0.$range0:0" dir="ltr" href="https://www.facebook.com/dboul" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">Dan Boul</a><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.0.$end:0:$0:0"> - Your comment is a great one. Our city can throw money at the issue. Unfortunately it is sort of like a shotgun approach where most of the projectiles miss the mark. The money is not wisely spent. A few years back I spent a day at </span></span><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0"><a class="profileLink" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=12784656483&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$range0:0" dir="ltr" href="https://www.facebook.com/unionrescuemissionla" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">Union Rescue Mission</a><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text1:0:$0:0"> in a meeting with </span><a class="profileLink" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=1199574279&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$range1:0" dir="ltr" href="https://www.facebook.com/abales" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">Andy Bales</a><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text2:0:$0:0">, </span><a class="profileLink" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=667446947&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$range2:0" dir="ltr" href="https://www.facebook.com/donpgarza" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">Don Petrosky Garza</a><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text3:0:$0:0"> and General Jeff (Downtown LA Neighborhood Council, Resident Director, Central City East / Skid Row) trying to come up with some ideas. Some things were accomplished in spite of the political insensitivity of that current administration. </span><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text3:0:$1:0" /><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text3:0:$3:0" /><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text3:0:$4:0">The problem is HUGE and 3.7 million dollars is a finger in the proverbial dam. BUT .... even small amounts are effective if properly allocated. Back to my shotgun analogy, in my era in Vietnam the number of rounds fired per kill was thousands. The number of rounds fired by snipers per kill was 1.7. $3.7 million dollars will be gone in a flash. In a few months there will be nothing to show for the expense other than some of the contractors upgrading their cars or procuring a bigger flat screen TV.</span><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text3:0:$5:0" /><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text3:0:$7:0" /><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text3:0:$8:0">But .... these resources can be allocated much more effectively if, as I have said earlier, a committee was formed with folks on a board. Some of those I mentioned in the past would be substantial assets as board members. Andy Bales, </span><a class="profileLink" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=1333941017&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$range3:0" dir="ltr" href="https://www.facebook.com/jgroseth" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">Jacqui Groseth</a><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text4:0:$0:0">, Don Garza, </span><a class="profileLink" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=1054196688&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$range4:0" dir="ltr" href="https://www.facebook.com/larry.adamson" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">Larry Adamson</a><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text5:0:$0:0"> would make a great start. </span><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text5:0:$1:0" /><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text5:0:$3:0" /><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30438069:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$text5:0:$4:0">If you look behind the proverbial curtain and spend a day or two at URM and look at where their money is spent you would see they know how to stretch a dollar. A full meal is $2.08. I have eaten these meals and (this is for you Dan Boul .... better than most meals any of my ex-wives produced when we were married) .... <span class="emoticon emoticon_smile" style="background-image: url(https://fbstatic-a.akamaihd.net/rsrc.php/v2/yH/r/eUYfuBIR9S1.png); background-position: -153px -799px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; background-size: auto; display: inline-block; height: 16px; vertical-align: top; width: 16px;" title=":)"></span> Housing, showers, health care (mental, medical, dental), legal services, counselling, family programs. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<a aria-haspopup="true" aria-owns="js_32" class="UFICommentActorName" data-ft="{"tn":";"}" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=726483742&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$author" href="https://www.facebook.com/diane.rabinowitz?fref=ufi" id="js_34" style="background-color: #fafbfb; color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold; line-height: 14.079999923706055px; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;">Diane Rainbowitz</a><span data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:2" style="background-color: #fafbfb; color: #4e5665; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14.079999923706055px; text-align: left;"> </span><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body" style="background-color: #fafbfb; color: #4e5665; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14.079999923706055px; text-align: left;"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0">One can't underestimate the serious mental illness issues that may contribute to homelessness, along with the marginalization of anyone who believes in true democracy and knows that resources are allocated more equitably in countries like Sweden for example. Re serious mental illness read about Rep Tim Murphy's HR 3717</span></span></span><br />
<span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body" style="background-color: #fafbfb; color: #4e5665; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14.079999923706055px; text-align: left;"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0"><br /></span></span></span>
<span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body" style="background-color: #fafbfb; color: #4e5665; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14.079999923706055px; text-align: left;"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0"><a aria-haspopup="true" aria-owns="js_35" class="UFICommentActorName" data-ft="{"tn":";"}" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=518559886&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$author" href="https://www.facebook.com/mylesr?fref=ufi" id="js_36" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Myles Rose</a><span data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:2"> </span><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><a class="profileLink" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=726483742&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$range0:0" dir="ltr" href="https://www.facebook.com/diane.rabinowitz" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">Diane Rainbowitz</a><span data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0"> - Yes, there are mental illness issues, drug and alcohol issues as well. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the public believe that these stereotypes are the main reason for the problem. This may have been the case years ago. It is no longer the case today. </span><br data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$1:0" /><br data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$3:0" /><span data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$4:0">The people on the street are folks that used to be our neighbors. They are folks we ate lunch with in the company cafeteria. They are the young men and women our country sent to fight in the Mid East and turned their back on when they came home. They are families and children. The face of homelessness since around 2008 has it's roots based in the economy, job loss and economics. </span><br data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$5:0" /><br data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$7:0" /><span data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$8:0">I suppose mental illness will always be a major factor that people walking by will attribute to the problem. Spend two weeks living on a sheet of cardboard covered with carpet felt as padding, no shower and a diet worse than that of a pigeon in a McDonald's parking lot and you too will be mentally unstable and changed. You will also look a bit different than you did in your clothes that were washed recently, your hair and your blackened hands and feet make you look.</span><br data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$9:0" /><br data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$11:0" /><span data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446837:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$12:0">Bottom line .... the serious mental issues impact a small percentage of the folks at the start of their tenure on the streets of Los Angeles but everybody that spends more than a few weeks living on the street will graduate with serious mental issues.</span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body" style="background-color: #fafbfb; color: #4e5665; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14.079999923706055px; text-align: left;"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".a.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30446651:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0"><a aria-haspopup="true" aria-owns="js_16" class="UFICommentActorName" data-ft="{"tn":";"}" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=726483742&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$author" href="https://www.facebook.com/diane.rabinowitz?fref=ufi" id="js_18" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Diane Rainbowitz</a><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:2"> </span><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body"><span class="UFICommentBody" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.0"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.0.$end:0:$0:0">Which is why I urge everyone to learn about HR3717.</span><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.0.$end:0:$1:0" /><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.0.$end:0:$3:0" /><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.0.$end:0:$4:0">The history of mental illness in this country is that mental hospitals were emptied out under Kennedy and Reagan, supposedly to "free" those individuals for release to community care, which never mat</span></span><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0"><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$0:0">erialized. It's true, the wholesale institutionalization for life of people with mental illness was awful. It's also true that with proper treatment, people with such brain disorder can rehabilitate and recover their function.</span><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$1:0" /><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$3:0" /><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$4:0">Unfortunately now if a person is psychotic, they may be hospitalized for a couple of days (but ONLY if they're a danger to self or other). They may be released back to the same place they were in before, without having gotten any measure of help for their condition. The community resources (and hospital beds) are woefully inadequate to meet the needs of people whose brains have been affected by combat, joblessness, homelessness, drug and alcohol abuse. </span><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$5:0" /><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$7:0" /><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$8:0">The other placement of choice is jail. People with mental illness occupy 30-40% of current prison beds. Again because the resources and knowledge to help them is scarce.</span><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$9:0" /><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$11:0" /><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$12:0">The efforts of Midnight Mission, Union Rescue Mission are a pitiful drop in the bucket of what is needed to heal these wounds. The homelessness problem in L.A. and other metropolitan areas is the ultimate shame of our society, as destructive as it is to the human spirit. </span><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$13:0" /><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$15:0" /><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447121:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.3.0.$end:0:$16:0">Sorry to elaborate on your wall, Myles. You were saying that it is complex and complicated and it may be better to leave it at that. Please accept my apologies and please feel free to delete this if you feel it is inappropriate to your intention.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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There are many problems in the world. Mental illness is one. Cancer is one. There are many. You can only address a fraction of the problems the world faces. I generally choose to address an issue where I feel an improvement can be made and something where I can get directly involved. That happens to be the homeless issue in the city where I live and the city where I was born. </span><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447361:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$text1:0:$1:0" /><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447361:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$text1:0:$3:0" /><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447361:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$text1:0:$4:0">HR "anything" implies government intervention. I personally feel our government is ineffective and does little more than perform actions that are little more than smoke and mirrors in regard to this problem. </span><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447361:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$text1:0:$5:0" /><br data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447361:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$text1:0:$7:0" /><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447361:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$text1:0:$8:0">If YOU want to make a difference, give URM a hand. Lord knows it is only people like you that can feed, clothe and provide a bed to somebody today, even if for only today. Our government is not going to do that. Hopefully our new mayor will enlist the help of folks like</span><a class="profileLink" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/hovercard.php?id=1199574279&extragetparams=%7B%22hc_location%22%3A%22ufi%22%7D" data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447361:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$range1:0" dir="ltr" href="https://www.facebook.com/abales" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">Andy Bales</a><span data-reactid=".d.1:3:1:$comment10152371876924887_30447361:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$0:0"> to head up any program our local city government wants to attempt to enact to address the problem of homelessness in the City of Los Angeles, the city with the highest homeless population in the nation.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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myles111ushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05727652448443356303noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9096804090522313433.post-49318086365812713022014-03-11T10:18:00.000-07:002015-04-08T09:02:29.801-07:00Oak Tree Gun Club and Armatix<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Oak Tree gun club is a popular shooting facility in Southern California. I shoot there a number of times each week. Currently there is a dialogue on their Facebook page in reference to their business relationship or lack of a business relationship with a company, Armatix, who develops "smart gun" technology. <br />
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Maybe some of you have heard about "smart guns" or micro-stamping technology. Some of you may be aware that at least two major firearms makers have stopped shipping firearms to California due to being required to use this technology in products sold in California.</div>
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In any case, I thought I'd take a moment to include my own thoughts on this subject of the relationship between Oak Tree and Armatix. This Armatix incident is not the only example of the way Oak Tree does some of their business. I like the place and many of the employees but they need to put attention toward some of the business practices, operating procedures and executive management. </div>
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The story started here - <a href="http://www.examiner.com/article/california-doj-asked-how-smart-gun-without-microstamping-made-safe-roster">http://www.examiner.com/article/california-doj-asked-how-smart-gun-without-microstamping-made-safe-roster</a><br />
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I am surprised that the Oak Tree owners / management would let Armatix anywhere near their facility let alone rent space to them. I personally think that sending them packing at the end of their lease would send a message to their customers, and to Sacramento. If Oak Tree wishes to support their customers and the shooting industry in general in my opinion, giving a home to companies like Armatix is contraindicated. </div>
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The first response to the Examiner article which was posted on the Oak Tree Facebook page was this:</div>
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Oak Tree can spin this anyway they wish but it still may send a bad message to the shooting public.</div>
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The issue here is not whether Oak Tree is or is not involved in the sale or development of "smart guns" It is a matter of Oak Tree renting space in their premier shooting facility in Southern California to a company that develops technology to strip the rights of legal firearm owners? This is how many people perceive the relationship.</div>
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These types of technology has already caused at least two companies to stop selling products to California. The technologies strongest attribute is giving anti-firearm government representatives "ammunition" to take away rights and choices from the people. The technology forces gun makers to pay or license this technology and go outside of their own manufacturing capabilities and add cost and complexity for them. This is almost akin to passing a law requiring every firearm sold in California be fitted with a GPS tracking device made by the folks that provide ankle bracelets for criminals.</div>
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At first, she said Oak Tree officials, who lease her an office at the facility, were “ecstatic” with the coverage, telling her they needed more guns in the store because a TV news crew was coming to film a report.</span><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$1:0" /><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$3:0" /><span data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$4:0">But that tone quickly changed. Padilla said Mitchell told her that he had received phone calls from gun rights groups questioning the gun’s sale and that he had canceled the TV interview.</span><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$5:0" /><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$7:0" /><span data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$8:0">The National Rifle Association, a fierce opponent of smart-gun technology, did not return several requests for comment on whether it called Oak Tree. The National Shooting Sports Foundation denied calling Oak Tree.</span><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$9:0" /><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$11:0" /><span data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$12:0">Mitchell “was clearly distraught,” Padilla said. “I told him, ‘It’s going to be okay. You’re doing the right thing.’ Then it just got worse.”</span><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$13:0" /><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$15:0" /><span data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$16:0">Padilla, whose company has a federal firearms license registered to Oak Tree’s address, soon discovered that Armatix hats and other merchandise were put away. The special firing range that she and Oak Tree outfitted, painted blue with a large Armatix sign, was repainted. When she took a client to buy the gun at the store, she was told there were “computer glitches.”</span><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$17:0" /><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$19:0" /><span data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$20:0">Though she said she is “disappointed to say the least” about Oak Tree’s reaction, Padilla also said she felt bad for Mitchell.</span><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$21:0" /><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$23:0" /><span data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$24:0">“It’s sad, because at the end of the day, he was trying to do something good, which is provide choice for those people that want safety,” Padilla said.</span><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$25:0" /><span data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$26:0">__________________________________________</span><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$27:0" /><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$29:0" /><span data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$30:0">So Jim Mitchell is basically lying to us AND to Armatix!!</span><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$31:0" /><br data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$33:0" /><span data-reactid=".o.1:3:1:$comment4013285826064_3084413:0.0.$right.0.$left.0.0.0:$comment-body.0.$end:0:$34:0">This guy has NO loyalty what so ever! 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On a final note in regard to the last comment by David Kim in regard to micro-stamping. When a firearm is used in a crime of mass shooting that makes the news there are many witnesses. The firearm is easy to trace back to the shooter. In more common crimes the technology is there already to look at bullets etc. But, in many illegal crimes, the gun is not registered, may have no serial number, was obtained illegally. All the micro-stamping in the world will not change anything other than add another government agency to track some sort of database that will be filled with nothing but law abiding citizens. It would also drive more companies to stop selling their products to California.</div>
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<b>March 12, 2014 Update</b><br />
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Today I went to Oak Tree in the morning to do a bit of trap shooting. Driving, as you cross over the 5 to turn onto Coltrane, there used to be a Armatix sign with the Oak Tree sign. The Armatix sign was gone.<br />
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When I was done shooting I walked down to where the Armatix offices once were. The signs were gone as are traces of the Armatix business.<br />
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I do not know if Armatix is any longer on the property or whether the removal of signs was in response to the news stories and posts in regard to whatever relationship Armatix and Oak Tree had with each other. <br />
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I welcome any Oak Tree response or contact from them to hear their point of view which I will be happy to add, in full and unedited, to this piece.<br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17.9999408721924px; text-align: left;"><b>3/5/2015 update.</b> Dropping rating from 5 stars to 3 stars on Yelp.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17.9999408721924px; text-align: left;">If you look at my earlier part of my review you will notice I initially had a bad impression as there was somebody behind the counter when there were a lot of people waiting for service and there was only one other individual waiting on those folks. The clueless guy turned out to be Tim Mitchell as I later learned. I felt that if he had personal conversation on his personal agenda he should step out from behind the counter. This was in the old shotgun shop which is now the Beretta shop as a side note.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17.9999408721924px; text-align: left;">So why the big drop from five stars to three? The facility is nice and the crew and employees are outstanding. If one of them caused my problem this morning I would have just escalated the issue to management. Unfortunately, the person causing the problem was management. </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17.9999408721924px; text-align: left;">It seems, from my own observation and some feedback, that Tim Mitchell had a group of his own that he was taking up to the sporting clays area. His group came first as did his desire to keep things shut down until he drove back down the hill. This was the second time I had seen him put himself ahead of the people that support his business. </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17.9999408721924px; text-align: left;">So.... rather than just update this review I will take a bit of economic action as well over 2015. I have a bit over $100 remaining on my shoot card. Normally that would last a few weeks. Now it may last the rest of 2015. I will be shooting less trap here and will spend more time shooting sporting clays at a facility that treats ALL their customers like they matter. The main reason I will return to </span><span class="highlighted" style="background: rgb(203, 214, 231); border: 0px; color: #333333; display: inline-block; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-weight: 700; line-height: 17.9999408721924px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;">Oak Tree</span><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17.9999408721924px; text-align: left;"> is because there are a lot of great employees. <b>Unfortunately the executive management leaves a lot to be desired.</b></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17.9999408721924px; text-align: left;">S</span><span style="background-color: white; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 17.9999408721924px;">ide note: The metallic side of the pistol range has needed repairs on broken targets more often than not. On one occasion the range did not open for over an hour and a half on a scheduled open day as repairs that had started in the morning on a non-maintenance day continued until lunch. The staff apologized to me and I overlooked the incident at the time. Unfortunately, over time the lack of organization and planning has been the rule more than the exception. </span></span></span><br />
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<b>4/8/15 Addition </b><br />
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In regard to the new website .... the Beretta store .... Unless clothing is used or made in the past it is not vintage. The store sells new sporting style clothing. I guess you could say "vintage style" in quotes or do something like that.<br />
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I have not looked much at the new website yet but I will. I tend to look for mistakes now after a few incidents involving Tim Mitchell and a few issues with things not working or not being open according to your schedule due to poorly scheduled maintenance. I was a big fan but after the last Tim Mitchell incident I have chosen to support your business less than I had been doing as there are other facilities I also use that have been in a state of improving rather than degrading. The website is nice but you really need to address some other areas. You can put new paint on the buildings but if your highest level of customer service and representation does not expand his own personal interests to those of his customers (other than his own personal inner circle), you may lose the support of more folks.<br />
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Here is .... An expensive tube ... that is an old design of a tube that used to be cheap by New Sensor... it used to be rugged ... it used to fit in amps. I did not like the tone much as it was dull but it was pretty reliable. Leave it to New Sensor to take what was a mediocre tube design of theirs and .....</div>
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So, the good folks at New Sensor slapped a old name of a past great tube maker on the tube ( seems like New Sensor even ruined a name ), made the tube unreliable, made the tube physical spec incorrect and one vendor even recommends that they are not to be used in cathode biased amps. I am sure somebody can list a few more grid biased amps that use an EL84 (all I can think of is a Fender Blues Junior and one era of Black Tolex Fender Tremolux (sold primarily with 6L6 tubes) but in the end we have an expensive, unreliable tube that won't fit in many popular amps.</div>
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Test results and observations on this new tube offering.<br />
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Tube Depot ( great folks) says that a pair will produce 300 watts yet the max plate dissipation is spec'd at 70 watts. I don't understand that 300 watt figure. A KT88SV as a side note is 50 watts and a regular KT88 is 42 or so watts. They run $90 per tube. </div>
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I will be looking at these asking myself ... is there a reason? How do they sound when driven to distortion? (A KT88 distorts in a lovely way but a 6550 distorts in a quick and raspy way that is not too pleasant). Do they last at voltages on the spec sheet? Most tubes today do not. How long will they keep going at full rated voltages? (My standard series of life tests.) What do their traces REALLY look like? Design spec drawings are often not close to being accurate. <br />
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The heater current mentioned? Not really an issue for any modern amp. A KT88 is around 1.6amps and this KT150 is noted at 2.0amps maximum and 1.75amps minimum. An EL34 is 1.5A as a sidenote.<br />
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<a href="https://d1sjrnpi226dnf.cloudfront.net/spree/attached_files/ts-kt150.pdf?1390421029">https://d1sjrnpi226dnf.cloudfront.net/spree/attached_files/ts-kt150.pdf?1390421029</a> - the published design and performance specs. <br />
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For those that wish to compare so other power tube data sheets of some tubes these are intended to replace:<br />
<a href="http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/Tube/KT88S.pdf">http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/Tube/KT88S.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/Tube/kt88sc.pdf">http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/Tube/kt88sc.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/Tube/6550.pdf">http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/Tube/6550.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/Tube/6550A.pdf">http://www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/Tube/6550A.pdf</a><br />
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Here is the promotional stuff from my friends at Tube Depot:<br />
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<i>With an internal plate length of 55mm and a massive plate dissipation of 70 watts (a KT88 is typically only 35mm and 42W), the Tung-Sol KT150 is the most powerful octal base beam tetrode ever produced. A pair of KT150's are capable of producing 300W of audio power. The thick glass envelope has a futuristic "egg" shape structure which improves thermal dissipation and provides the strength needed for a superior vacuum. The Tung-Sol KT150 is built to survive the most demanding audio environments possible.</i></div>
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<i>The overall sound of the KT150 is thunderously powerful. The bass is tight, full, and precise with a neutral midrange and transparent high end clarity. The dynamics are unlike anything we have ever heard before. This is truly the tyrannosaurus rex of beam tetrodes.</i></div>
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<i>Because each KT150 consumes 2.0A of filament current (more than the KT88 and 6550), we recommend contacting your equipment manufacturer to insure your power supply is capable of powering this tube. Additionally, this tube is 5-1/2" from bottom of base (not including pins) to the top of the glass. Insure you system has at least 6-1/2" of clearance from top of the tube socket to the overhead limit. There must be room allowed for both tube installation and cooling.</i></div>
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<i>If your sound demands the most, this is the tube.</i></div>
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<b>Update:</b><br />
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Voltage tests: Testing a duet. One of the tubes failed bringing up the voltage to maximum stated value at 612 plate volts. At this point the bias was still set at -80v. The tube was under NO load and producing no output. In an amplifier even at idle this tube would have failed. Holding the plate voltage at 625 the remaining tube failed in less than ten minutes. This was as the bias was being adjusted to a level to put the tube into an operational mode. At the point of failure the plate dissipation / voltage indicated that the tube was producing 41 watts at the time it failed. </div>
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The curves on this tube in no way indicate KT characteristics. The tube performs very much like a 6550. The distortion curves when pushed (at lower voltages adjusting the bias) are very close to those of a 6550 rather than a KT88. Ultra Linear operation has no advantages for this tube which is not the case with a KT66 or KT88.<br />
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These tubes look as if a burn in would improve initial stability.<br />
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2/7/14 1530pst:<br />
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KT-150 update:<br />
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When I came back from lunch and pistol shooting (shotgun shooting this morning as a side note) the duet of KT-150 tubes were still running. They have drifted and burn in is worthwhile... very worthwhile. If you use these in any amp recheck bias after the first hour, at five hours as well. I am still seeking stability. Running out again but will up the wattage demand and continue testing. There are now 10 hours of run time on the duet and three of those hours have been running at 50+ watts per duet, far below rated output but the first step in operational testing.<br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #37404e; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;">2014:02:07 09:11:07.71 49.44 51.27</span><br />
<span style="background-color: white; color: #37404e; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;">2014:02:07 09:11:08.07 50.16 </span><span class="text_exposed_show" style="background-color: white; color: #37404e; display: inline; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;">51.32<br />2014:02:07 09:11:08.11 49.02 51.32<br />2014:02:07 09:11:08.71 50.97 51.71<br />2014:02:07 09:11:09.31 50.09 52.96<br />2014:02:07 09:11:09.41 51.36 52.96<br />2014:02:07 09:11:09.51 49.31 52.96<br />2014:02:07 09:11:09.61 47.72 52.96<br />2014:02:07 09:11:09.71 60.03 60.04<br />2014:02:07 09:11:11.11 47.39 57.76<br />2014:02:07 09:11:14.89 46.76 57.76<br />2014:02:07 09:11:14.99 45.84 47.49<br />2014:02:07 09:11:15.09 45.36 48.68</span></div>
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Keep in mind this tube has a 70 watt max plate design spec. Then again, an EL34 has a 25 watt max plate spec yet four of them in some amps produce 140 to 170 watts without issue. The claim of 300 watts for a duet of these KT-150s is an interesting claim. We will see.<br />
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Side note - I have seen over 120 watts produced reliably by a duet of KT88SV tubes often.<br />
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<b>2/7/14 - Duet #3 still running. No issues. Raising the power. 575/550 plate and screen voltage.</b><br />
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WATTS<br />
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80+ watts is the maximum design rating (70 plate + 9 screen watts). I will run this duet for a long period or until one of the duet fail. <br />
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The last duet may be run at maximum voltages but may not be subjected to the maximum voltage claims for a few reasons. Many components today other than tubes may not run at 800 volts. I do not think too many designers would design an amp to run at 800 plate volts. Tube prefer current to voltage, they just sound better. High voltage amps can tend to sound harsh. These high plate voltage design amps are also less reliable and tube life is shorter. In essence, there is really little reason to run the voltages to extremes. I may drop the voltage to 500/490 in a while and drop the bias voltage to keep the same general level of power output yet cycle the power output while capturing the waveforms on sample and hold gear. Dan Boul of <a href="http://www.65amps.com/">www.65amps.com</a> has seen the sample/hold gear used in his shop for pickup balancing, a different story perhaps sometime, perhaps a short segment some day on a 'Lunch with Dan Boul' Ustream show? <br />
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Factors to consider on first tubes tested which failed:<br />
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These are large tubes and large tubes are less durable physically. They don't like to travel and do not do as well in transport or shipment. Grid wires slip their posts and there are other things that can happen. The KT66 sees these issues quite often, another large tube. The tubes were pack as matched duets and the first duet may have been dropped while being packed for shipment perhaps. The second duet currently under test are performing properly at this point.<br />
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Side note from one of the best amp techs and designers in the business, Blackie Pagano:<br />
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<i>hey myles, for grins i knocked together a kt-150 SE in a client supplied fender chassis a month or so ago. biased it all the way up to rated dissipation and it was stable and made 20 watts at clipping! nice, classic SE waveform, clipping softly into 2nd harmonic distortion. sounded great and very ballsy but...became quite microphonic shortly. too microphonic for combo use...boo. i sent it back.</i><br />
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If you want to contact Blackie you can find him at:<br />
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<b>2/9/14 Update</b><br />
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The duet continues to run without incident. At this point I assume that the tubes may fare as typical for current production tubes. They will be more prone to physical damage than a typical 6550 or KT88. I feel the mica support structure in inadequate for a tube with internals of this size and mass. If you travel with this tube be careful. Very careful. </div>
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Bottom line from my own point of view? A big tube that is physically fragile that has no particular power or voltage advantage over a current KT88. I love the shape though, looks like the Russians worked a cool deal with IKEA to make the bottles for the tubes from the vendor that makes their chandelier light bulbs. </div>
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Starting on a batch of chili for 1000 for the big game today-should I say Souper Bowl? I'll post finished product!</div>
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Union Rescue Mission. What a great organization. Andy Bales. Their CEO and one heck of an amazing man.</div>
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Superbowl Sunday will not see as many homeless folks go hungry, or miss the game if that is of interest. You want to impress folks with your Superbowl party where you feed ten ... twenty .... fifty? It won't impress me much. Andy and is crew will feed over 1,000.<br />
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As cool as this is you can make it even better. There are 364 more days in a year and the folks at <a href="http://www.urm.org/">www.urm.org</a> provide over 1,000 meals each day. They cannot do it without your help. How making a bet on one team or the other for a few bucks? Head over to the URM website and donate a little something as your bet. No matter which team wins you will be a winner.<br />
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myles111ushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05727652448443356303noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9096804090522313433.post-71463047533267359052014-01-09T09:53:00.002-08:002014-02-02T10:23:30.507-08:00Sale price my butt ....<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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In the past I used the products from these folks. Last time I was given one price on the phone when the order was placed when I was told the amount my credit card would be charged. A few days later the charge came which was higher than the amount I was told would be charged. In four orders this was the first time this happened. I was always charged the posted price.<br />
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Those F2 Legend 12ga 1 1/8oz 7.5 Shot at $94.45 were what I ordered from Dave. Dave told me I would be charged $94.45. I was charged $107.95. The first column is their normal price and the second column is their sale price.</div>
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When I called about the overcharge my call was sent to Dave but I got voicemail. I called back and told the gal that I wanted to speak to somebody and she told me that the $12.95 was shipping and handling. I explained that they advertise no shipping on case lots. She said I would have to call back. When I called back I was told that shipping was indeed free but in the last six month they implemented a handling fee. I told Dave there was no mention of this, nothing in their literature about this and that HE had told me the price was $94.45. At this point his boss John must have overheard the phone conversation and took the call and in multiple following calls made promises of a refund, even though he insisted he was right and they had made no mistake. He would refund the charge as a courtesy. Courtesy my ass John. </div>
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The antics continue. Some of my written correspondence and some of theirs in addition to more than a half a dozen phone calls. </div>
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You folks over charged me. I was told my price would be $94.45 yet you charged my card $107.40. You charged me shipping which you clearly state is not charged on case lots. You have not charged me shipping in the past. I tried to call and there was nobody available to take my call. As a side note my shipment is lost. So at this point, I am overcharged and my shipment is lost.</div>
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I think it is going to be the end of our business relationship unless I hear back from you folks shortly. I left my phone number with your receptionist who is the one who added shipping to my order.</div>
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You told me I would be credited for the overcharge. There has been no credit issued. You are swift to charge when an order is placed with you folks but rectifying problems does not seem to be a strong suit.</div>
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It is a bit sad that although I liked your products and have bought them in the past, even though they were more expensive than anybody else's shells, you have lost me as a customer due to bad customer service even after you told me you would resolve my issue.</div>
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Dave told me that your case of shells was located in transit and you will be receiving them shortly. I was also told that in the next few days, as a courtesy, your account will be credited the $12.95.</div>
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Now, I empathize with the stresses of your business and your charitable work. However, from beginning to the end the interrogation, demands, and stress you laid off on Dave were totally disproportionate to the circumstances. If you don’t relax and begin placing this sort of thing into its proper perspective you are going to drive yourself to an early grave. Those you help with your charitable work can’t afford to lose you. We all can’t afford to lose a good guy.</div>
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Wishing you the very best of the holiday season and a happy new year.</div>
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<b>Update .... at this point nothing has been done. It will also take more than a $12.95 refund to make things right at this point after all of your bad service, run arounds, and failed customer service. </b><br />
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I have had issues with other companies in regard to their customer service. When they have turned things around and rectified things I have added that information to the blog piece. Even huge firms like ATT have made great leaps in customer service as a side note. You folks are now part of a list called "consumer". Other folks on this list have resolved things. It will be interesting to see what happens in your case. The link to the list is - <a href="http://la-economy.blogspot.com/search/label/consumer">http://la-economy.blogspot.com/search/label/consumer</a> </div>
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Your product are the most expensive shotshells in the industry. Even with the discount they are 30%+ higher than many other brands. I am learning that these other brands work just as well for me and in fact, Winchester "white box" as sold from Wal Mart to anywhere leave less wad residue in my chokes. When you sell the most expensive product in an industry the only hope of having folks look at you, and stay with you (this was my 4th order of case lots) is customer service. Dave failed miserably. You stepped in more than once and failed as well. You made a promise you did not keep and in my book, whether we see eye to eye or not, is a lie.<br />
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As of 12:19pst 4,031 folks have read this blog piece and that was prior to the Instagram post.<br />
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<b>1/21/14 update</b><br />
I just got off the phone with Dave and asked why my promised refund has not arrived. He said there is nothing he can do, it has been turned over to Amy in the accounting department but she just had a baby so may not reply. Big company customer service? I don't think so.<br />
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In any case, he took my number and said she would call me. I will count the days ;)<br />
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8,541 folks have read this piece wince it was posted on 1/9/14. <br />
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<b>1/23/14 update</b><br />
Still no credit as promised. Still no call as promised. But ... I did make an Instagram post today ;)<br />
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<b>1/23/14 close of business.</b> Kaltron sent my refund. After all the calls, time and trouble with them I would have expected a bit more but I heard they are going bankrupt and a company called Aerostar Outdoors will be the new B&P distributor in the USA. I find the bankruptcy of Kaltron not much of a shock considering how long it took them to resolve such a simple issue.<br />
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